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Re: Exit Interview

Subject: Re: Exit Interview
From: TreesonBC
Date: Dec 19 2002 12:44:22
Subj:RE: Exit Interview 
Date:18/12/2002 14:09:31 GMT Standard Time
From:<A 
HREF="mailto:DScanlon@xxxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk">DScanlon@xxxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk</A>

        Well said Chris.  This is a serious problem that faces Local
Government.  Our Local Plan people recently published an important document,
arranged a press meeting - none of them turned up!  Many of the Local Parish

councils did not respond to the document either, even after great
encouragement and not so subtle hints at the importance of it.

Probably because the PC saw little in it for them.  If it was a proposed 
motorway through their parish then things would be different.


        You can't force people to respond.  Every time you make a
TPO you know the owner will object and everyone is upset that we are 
picking
on that poor individual.  If we had let the tree be felled 10 phone calls 
of
complaint tell you what the really popular decision is.  

As a matter of interest what would you do if the landowner felled the tree 
without asking?  Would he be subject to the full weight of the law?  People 
often don't comment because they don't see the point.  They regard 
consultation as something the LA has to do.  A mere cosmetic exercise because 
minds have already been made up and the LA will do what it wants regardless 
of the comments.  By the time the elections come around everyone will have 
forgotten anyway.

But can you get

people to write in with their support!  Rarely.  If people are unhappy they
may be unhappy enough to physically object.  If people are happy they think
'what's the point its all in hand'.  But we focus on the few who write in.

In fairness people are entitled to expect you to do your job properly.  The 
public rarely express gratitude.

ME, if people realised that LA staff actually took notice of their letters 
then the position would be different.  I recently wrote to the LA about 
something.  No answer.  I wrote to the dept head.  Again no answer.  I then 
wrote to the CE.  That certainly produced action and the relevant people so 
eager to please that it was embarrassing.  Being persistent does produce 
results.  In my case, the objection was the lack of response rather than the 
specific issue, but it took the CE to appreciate that as a council taxpayer I 
have a RIGHT to expect a response to a reasonable request put in a reasonable 
way.  One can only assume that the others concerned thought that is they 
ignored me I would just go away.  Despite what the reasons were (which may 
have been true), after the event they just sound like excuses.


        Surely this issue of consultation response is linked to low
election turnout - especially at a Local level.  Apathy is not a full 
enough
explanation some of the most unhappy do not vote either.  We need to look 
to
better ways of engaging the public.

People see politics as a national thing.  They do not think that PCs have 
much influence (which is probably true).  PCs don't have a lot of power, even 
over local matters that affect their community.  LAs don't want them to have 
too much power because if the PC did it then who needs the LA, and those who 
work for it?  I realise that is simplistic, and I am not really suggesting 
that you do not need LAs or their staff, but it is what people think.  The 
worst offenders are business people who think they know how it should be 
done.  Most do not have to work within the constraints of a LA officer.  A 
small business, say with 20 staff, is tiny compared to even a small LA.


        Dom

        > Better known as NIMBYism.  It would be interesting to know
how you
        > presented your proposals.  Speaking personally, I think
that a
        > written plan with reasons, sent to those concerned, or
perhaps the
        > parish council, and requesting WRITTEN submissions, is the
way.
        > Making the public do some work and to have to go to some
trouble can
        > soon sort the men from the boys. Allowing verbal comments
first just
        > gets a knee jerk reaction and lets the vocal minority have
their say

        This may be a useful way of 'sorting the men from the boys',
but don't
        we have a duty to consult the boys as well? Possibly your
suggestion
        would lead to good quality responses without excluding
anyone in rural
        Herefordshire / Worcstershire (sorry, can't remember which
side of the
        border you are). But in inner city Nottingham it would be
wholly
        unacceptable on equal opportunity grounds. We need to be
seen to be
        offering the chance to respond to all sections of the
community,
        including those with literacy problems, impaired vision or
whose first
        language is not English. To that end the proposals must be
expressed in
        an accessible form and we must be prepared to accept
comments in
        whatever form residents find it easiest.

        --
        Chris Hastie
        Arboricultural Officer


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