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Re: Guess who's back, back again?

Subject: Re: Guess who's back, back again?
From: Scott Cullen
Date: Jan 05 2004 11:08:27
Happy New Year to you as well.

As nearly as I can tell from the RICS website and my earlier research,  
Forestry would be one of the
subsidiary competencies in the RICS Rural Faculty.  http://www.rics.org/rural/

Any applicant would need to satisfy all the requirements of that faculty 
including some academic
base qualification, structured training and two additional years of 
supervised activity before an
Assessment of Professional Competency.  These guides provide some detail but 
seem to leave a lot
out.
http://www.rics.org/downloads/apc_act_requirements_and_competencies_guide.pdf
http://www.rics.org/downloads/apc_candidate_guide.pdf

On its face it seems like practicing arborists would need to make a 
significant investment in
competencies which may not be directly related to what they do.  I'd guess 
arbs might want to look
at these requirements before lobbying AA or RICS.

So I guess my question is whether the benefits of RICS status offset that 
investment.  At all or
compared to ICF status.  Perhaps you can explain a little more the benefits 
you see.

Scott Cullen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Forbes-Laird" <treegen@xxxxx.co.uk>
To: "UK Tree Care" <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 5:27 AM
Subject: Guess who's back, back again?


Happy New Year forum,

A couple of things:

Firstly, on this Chapman case, for me the real gem from the trial
transcripts is the Judge's statement that what the local authority had
failed to do was to 'undertake systematic expert inspection, as opposed to
simply making lists of trees'. Ouch!

Anyway, the main point of this posting is a call to arms for all Chartered
arboriculturists:

By now ladies & gents you will all have heard the news that we are destined
to become Chartered Surveyors. For me, this is actually good news, and I'll
tell you why: firstly, RICS has a pretty serious pedigree and I for one am
happy to have a piece of that. Secondly, there is a very real but darned
small window of opportunity here, but we need to seize it NOW.

To elaborate: our forester friends are not likely to organise anything other
than a forestry division within the environmental section of RICS.
Personally, I would describe being a Forester Member of the Royal Institute
of Charetered Surveyors as not being quite an appropriate professional
recognition for arboriculture.

However, I firmly believe that we have the chance to lobby for this division
to be 'forestry and arboriculture' (a pure arb division seems too distant a
hope). If you are of like mind, can I ask you to do the following:

1. Let either myself or Dave Dowson know
2. Badger the AA to lobby RICS/ICF (I have made Nick Eden aware of the
situation)
3. Write to the ICF and/or attend one of their fora on the subject

Any other thoughts/better ideas on this gratefully received.

I hope 2004 goes well for all those who care for trees.

JFL.

Julian Forbes-Laird MICFor, Dip.Arb.(RFS)
Senior Consultant, CBA Trees
Registered Consultant of the Arboricultural Association




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