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RE: Marketing thinnings

Subject: RE: Marketing thinnings
From: Edmund Hopkins
Date: Mar 10 2005 07:58:02
I certainly agree you won't get a harvester, and although we don't know what
the access is like etc etc, I doubt you'll attract a standing sale, but
please don't dismiss thinning to waste. It could well be done for nothing
via a training agency or trainer, find out who the NPTC's etc are and ask
about. Even BTCV might do it on one of their chainsaw training weeks, or
there's the local agricultural college. We had a local trainer take a load
of electricity board workers into a wood and they got a gratifying amount
done.

In fact its siviculturally quite important you do get something done, bear
in mind though that people with experience of forestry work will be much
quicker than tree surgeons, even experienced ones, its a very different
job.



Regards, E.

Quoting "Mundie, Graham" <graham.mundie@xxxxxx.gov.uk>:

Martin,

I would think the limited area & low value would make it uneconomic for
mechanised harvesting.  

After thinning (25% selective), the remaining stock will be improved, but
still a high % of coarse branching & bendy stems.  In local government
land, blowing a high proportion of the annual tree budget for an assumed
windfall after 20 years just isn't going to happen, so thinning to waste
is not an option.  At the end of the day, profit is less of a concern
that simply covering costs.  If we can't do the job at or near cost,
we'll just leave them and clear them one-by-one when they fall over.  

Graham


-----Original Message-----
From: Weaver, Martin [mailto:MWeaver@xxxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk]
Sent: 09 March 2005 13:06
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: Marketing thinnings


Afternoon Graham

How are the thinnings to take place, Harvester or chainsaw is one big
question?

Ultimately, after thinning what is the remaining stock going to be like
and
would it be a better idea to pay out for thin to waste/environment
benefit
with the final crop covering the cost of both operations?  Is a profit
going
to be possible?....I doubt it, though the more people you get in to
value
the wood the smaller the slice of the cake!

Now is the time to consider a change in the management techniques, e.g.
continuous cover forestry, would be a great PR job with the school being
to
close?  Don't forget that if CCF is run well a few specimen trees
removed
more often may open up a niche market....you never know

Good luck

Martin Weaver

-----Original Message-----
From: Mundie, Graham [mailto:graham.mundie@xxxxxx.gov.uk]
Sent: 09 March 2005 10:57
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Marketing thinnings



For the secret foresters lurking out there, I have a school in NE
Hampshire
situated in a scots pine plantation (approx 2 ha).  Trees are approx 30
yrs
old & require (second) thinning.  Sizes range from 15 - 40cm
dbh(possibly
0.1 cub.m./av.pole - total guess though) & the general timber quality
is
somewhat mediocre.

The question is, what is the current demand for pulpwood and would such
a
site be of interest to a forestry contractor?  Ok that was 2 questions.

And a bonus third question - does anybody have any forestry contacts
down
this neck of the proverbial woods.  Contact me off-forum if you want to
keep
your forestry heretige quiet.

Many thanks,

Graham Mundie
Tree & Grounds Management Officer,
Property, Business & Regulatory Services,
Hampshire County Council,
The Calthorpe Room,
Three Minsters House,
76 High Street,
Winchester, SO23 8UL

Tel; 01962 846315


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