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Re: School trees

Subject: Re: School trees
From: Steve . Hookham
Date: Dec 20 2005 08:34:51
Hi Matt

Its a varied picture in my authority.  We have a mix from PFI schools who 
are managing their own sites via a third party, pretty much for everything 
from the fence inwards, to schools that have `opted out' and pick and 
choose where they get their services from, some of whom have Service Level 
Agreements with us.  Right through to schools that are still managed by 
the department we sit in, which is Learning and Leisure Services.    As 
far as I can gather, of those, the only ones that can pull on an 
identified budget are the ones still managed `in house' but even there the 
take up is patchy with little or no proactive surveying or planning. 

With over 350 schools only  £15.5K spent so far in 05/06 with us.   Most 
of that comes from the in house lot, that is managed by their buildings 
maintenance people. I think they tend to prioritise things like warm and 
dry kids that don't get electrocuted or gassed, over tree work.  Dealing 
with immediate pressures out of very limited funds I suppose.

We operate pretty much as an agency to these external customers and if 
there isn't an order to cover inspection, report and if appropriate, 
works, then we don't give them the service.   Quite a few of the opted out 
schools did respond to a mail out by a third party company (that manages 
things like electrical, fire and boiler testing etc) which pointed out 
their duty of care to inspect and manage the trees that are their 
responsibility.  This generated a fair bit of inspection work but this 
didn't always pan out.  Especially when the school is only successful in 
identifying an even greater potential drain on funds than they were 
already (not) aware of! 

If you have some mechanism for, effectively, subsidising them from your 
service area or other budget holders,  which doesn't impinge on your other 
commitments, I would be interested to hear how it is done as I'm sure 
there are a lot of stored up problems out there which will manifest in the 
not too distant future.

Steve





Matthew Searle              ES <matt.searle@xxxxxxxx.gov.uk>
19/12/2005 16:20
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        Subject:        School trees

Dear Forum,

 

We're trying to squeeze our Education department to pay for tree advice 
and
remedial work from their 'ring fenced' Education budget. I'd be very
interested to see how other local authorities (and particularly other 
County
Council's) deal with their school trees, and how their advice and the work
is financed?

 

Thanks 

 

Matt Searle

Arboricultural Officer

 

Telephone: 01245 437790

Fax: userfax01245 437213

Internet: www.essexcc.gov.uk

Email: Matt.Searle@xxxxxxxx.gov.uk

 


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