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RE: Deer protection and hunting

Subject: RE: Deer protection and hunting
From: andrew wyllie
Date: Dec 24 2005 16:20:46 
It is worth remembering when live trapping thay you generally have to

kill the rabbits with your bare hands which is a wee bit harder than
detaching yourself from the kill with a gun, although I think it is more
dignified.
This is a valid point, particularly when live trapping squirrels. It's
worth bearing in mind that ypu can now no longer drown squirrels in traps
but are recommended to transfer them in to a sack and rap them on the head
with a stout stick. Never tried it myself as it sounds like an easy way to
lose fingers to a little grey bugger, and after they might develope a taste
for human flesh.
Also whilst some recommend that a gap could be left under fencing for
rabbits I would be concerned that some species of deer are as likly to try
and push under a fence as jump it. Muncjac are small with small antlers so
I'd have thought they would be more inclind to tunnel than attempt a steve
Mcqueen style jump.
The public footpaths shouldn't be too much of a problem when shooting as you
have a lawful reason to be shooting near them. I would however ensure any
stalker you get in has DSC level 1 preferably 2. Is insured, many
recreational shooters are insured through BASC however this may not apply if
they are contracted in, as they are shooting for gain not recreation so
double check.
Just a few of my last thoughts of the day before I go home, Just to let you
know I have exactly the opposite problem to Tahir and I will be spending
christmas morning feeding carrots and barley to my fallow deer herd 

Merry Christmas,
Spare a thought for us poor sods working through till new year.

Wyllie



From: "Mark Smith" <Mark.Smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk>
Reply-To: uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: Deer protection and hunting
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:42:12 -0000

When live trapping there is a legal obligation to visit the traps once
every 24 hours, the Scottish Gamekeepers Association recommend every 12
hours as being more appropriate.

It is worth remembering when live trapping thay you generally have to
kill the rabbits with your bare hands which is a wee bit harder than
detaching yourself from the kill with a gun, although I think it is more
dignified.

Enjoy the break.

Mark Smith
Town Planner and Arboriculturist
(and hunter)
West Dunbartonshire Council

-----Original Message-----
From: Hare, Gareth [mailto:gareth.hare@xxxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk]
Sent: 23 December 2005 12:38
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: Deer protection and hunting

No sites but there are plans (I believe)in Animal Traps and Trapping by
James Bateman.
In point of fact All traps need a lot of checking (I believe now every
12
hours)
To be fair you'd need to check these regularly in any case as they get
full!

All the best. I will now be off forum till the new year so to all

A happy festive season

-----Original Message-----
From: Tahir [mailto:tahir@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
Sent: 23 December 2005 12:22
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Deer protection and hunting




Hare, Gareth wrote:

>Basically a hole dug in the ground beneath the fenceline with a wooden
>box dropped in the hole about 2foot deep. On top of this is a wooden
>'treadplate' pivoted so that when brer rabbit comes along his weight
>tips the plate, he falls into the box and the counterbalance tips the
>plate back into set position. Too deep for rabbit to jump out of and is

>stopped by the wooden plate anyway.
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That'd need constant monitoring wouldn't it? Any links to a site that
has pics?

Thanks

Tahir

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tahir [mailto:tahir@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
>Sent: 23 December 2005 12:12
>To: UK Tree Care
>Subject: Re: Deer protection and hunting
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>Hare, Gareth wrote:
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>>have you
>>thought about installing some permanent drop boxes in the fencelines
>>as
>>these have the triple benefits of producing prime rabbits, being very
>>efficient and are exceedingly cheap to make. With a few of these in
the
>>right locations you should't have a rabbit problem.
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>Never even heard of them, what are they? (sound good)
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