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Re: Standard of Tree Work

Subject: Re: Standard of Tree Work
From: Paul Hawksford
Date: Mar 16 2006 22:12:02
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"I agree with the sentiment about nptc certification.
Pruning is an art that not all can grasp and all
climber will mess many trees up before they get a 
feel for it."

I climbed for a company in Germany yonks ago, in the
first week the ground rules were laid out, if we stub
cut, we get back up and prune it correctly (NTP -
natural target pruning for the tree officer's info
earlier on) and if we flushed a cut we were charged 30
marks. By end of week one, we pruned correctly. On my
second or third day, I'd climbed a massive Lime (or
Linden as they called them) and left a stub at about
25m, the foreman sent me back up again - b*****d, we
soon learnt though!!!

Paul H.




--- peter mcsheffrey <hudtreeserv@xxxxxxxx.com> wrote:


______________________________________________________________________
TEP Seminar V - TREE MORPHOLOGY
FINAL PLACES NOW AVAILABLE - Ashton Court, Bristol -
23rd & 24th March
Dr Pierre Raimbault - Use of Tree Architecture as a
Basis for Tree
Assessment
Dr Milena Martenkov - Understanding Branch & Root
Architecture
Dr David Lonsdale - Tree Morphology &Tree Assessment
& Management
www.treeworks.co.uk/seminars,
seminars@xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk or 0117 XXXX XXX

______________________________________________________________________


I agree with the sentiment about nptc certification.
Pruning is an art that 
not all can grasp and all climber will mess many
trees up before they get a 
feel for it. This is due to commercial pressure as
much as anything else. 
Ayoung climber will be pushed to reach un achivable
targets and proper 
instruction is lacking. Reading BS3998 will give him
a vocabulary and the 
other tickets will give him the tools but that will
not produce the standard 
of tree work we all expect. I cringe at some of my
first attempts to thin, 
lion tailing over pruning etc.
However there is also a percentage of people who
just dont care. Job done go 
home.These are the people that need to be tackled,
and as a contractor and 
climber i can not see a solution that is short term
or simple.
This is in no means an excuse for poor pruning as we
all witness. It is just 
a reflection of the state of the contracting
industry as a see it.

From: Douglasbgrd@xxxx.com
Reply-To: uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: Standard of Tree Work
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:45:53 EST


______________________________________________________________________
TEP Seminar V - TREE MORPHOLOGY
FINAL PLACES NOW AVAILABLE - Ashton Court, Bristol
- 23rd & 24th March
Dr Pierre Raimbault - Use of Tree Architecture as a
Basis for Tree
Assessment
Dr Milena Martenkov - Understanding Branch & Root
Architecture
Dr David Lonsdale - Tree Morphology &Tree
Assessment & Management
www.treeworks.co.uk/seminars,
seminars@xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk or 0117 XXXX XXX

______________________________________________________________________

I would have to say there are plenty of Arbs out
there that do not  have 
the
right feel and the experience to carry out
sympathetic work  to trees, and 
yes
I have come across plenty who think a NPTC is a
certificate of  general 
tree
competence and not just a certificate to use a
chain  saw.   That's where 
your
tree officer should come into his own when  putting
contractors on their 
list


Doug Lewis


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