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Re: Standard of Tree Work

Subject: Re: Standard of Tree Work
From: peter mcsheffrey
Date: Mar 16 2006 22:16:42
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FINAL PLACES NOW AVAILABLE - Ashton Court, Bristol - 23rd & 24th March
Dr Pierre Raimbault - Use of Tree Architecture as a Basis for Tree
Assessment
Dr Milena Martenkov - Understanding Branch & Root Architecture
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Leaving stub cuts and coming back down. I would have sent my groundie back up to do it, if the foreman can see it so can he!

pete

From: Paul Hawksford <arbcon@xxxxxx.co.uk>
Reply-To: uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: Standard of Tree Work
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:11:35 +0000 (GMT)

______________________________________________________________________
TEP Seminar V ? TREE MORPHOLOGY
FINAL PLACES NOW AVAILABLE ? Ashton Court, Bristol - 23rd & 24th March
Dr Pierre Raimbault - Use of Tree Architecture as a Basis for Tree
Assessment
Dr Milena Martenkov - Understanding Branch & Root Architecture
Dr David Lonsdale - Tree Morphology &Tree Assessment & Management
www.treeworks.co.uk/seminars, seminars@xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk or 0117 XXXX XXX
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"I agree with the sentiment about nptc certification.
Pruning is an art that not all can grasp and all
climber will mess many trees up before they get a
feel for it."

I climbed for a company in Germany yonks ago, in the
first week the ground rules were laid out, if we stub
cut, we get back up and prune it correctly (NTP -
natural target pruning for the tree officer's info
earlier on) and if we flushed a cut we were charged 30
marks. By end of week one, we pruned correctly. On my
second or third day, I'd climbed a massive Lime (or
Linden as they called them) and left a stub at about
25m, the foreman sent me back up again - b*****d, we
soon learnt though!!!

Paul H.




--- peter mcsheffrey <hudtreeserv@xxxxxxxx.com> wrote:

>
______________________________________________________________________
> TEP Seminar V - TREE MORPHOLOGY
> FINAL PLACES NOW AVAILABLE - Ashton Court, Bristol -
> 23rd & 24th March
> Dr Pierre Raimbault - Use of Tree Architecture as a
> Basis for Tree
> Assessment
> Dr Milena Martenkov - Understanding Branch & Root
> Architecture
> Dr David Lonsdale - Tree Morphology &Tree Assessment
> & Management
> www.treeworks.co.uk/seminars,
> seminars@xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk or 0117 XXXX XXX
>
______________________________________________________________________
>
>
> I agree with the sentiment about nptc certification.
> Pruning is an art that
> not all can grasp and all climber will mess many
> trees up before they get a
> feel for it. This is due to commercial pressure as
> much as anything else.
> Ayoung climber will be pushed to reach un achivable
> targets and proper
> instruction is lacking. Reading BS3998 will give him
> a vocabulary and the
> other tickets will give him the tools but that will
> not produce the standard
> of tree work we all expect. I cringe at some of my
> first attempts to thin,
> lion tailing over pruning etc.
> However there is also a percentage of people who
> just dont care. Job done go
> home.These are the people that need to be tackled,
> and as a contractor and
> climber i can not see a solution that is short term
> or simple.
> This is in no means an excuse for poor pruning as we
> all witness. It is just
> a reflection of the state of the contracting
> industry as a see it.
>
> >From: Douglasbgrd@xxxx.com
> >Reply-To: uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
> >To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
> >Subject: Re: Standard of Tree Work
> >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:45:53 EST
> >
>
>______________________________________________________________________
> >TEP Seminar V - TREE MORPHOLOGY
> >FINAL PLACES NOW AVAILABLE - Ashton Court, Bristol
> - 23rd & 24th March
> >Dr Pierre Raimbault - Use of Tree Architecture as a
> Basis for Tree
> >Assessment
> >Dr Milena Martenkov - Understanding Branch & Root
> Architecture
> >Dr David Lonsdale - Tree Morphology &Tree
> Assessment & Management
> >www.treeworks.co.uk/seminars,
> seminars@xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk or 0117 XXXX XXX
>
>______________________________________________________________________
> >
> >I would have to say there are plenty of Arbs out
> there that do not  have
> >the
> >right feel and the experience to carry out
> sympathetic work  to trees, and
> >yes
> >I have come across plenty who think a NPTC is a
> certificate of  general
> >tree
> >competence and not just a certificate to use a
> chain  saw.   That's where
> >your
> >tree officer should come into his own when  putting
> contractors on their
> >list
> >
> >
> >Doug Lewis
> >
> >
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