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Re: Storm the BSI!

Subject: Re: Storm the BSI!
From: Pete Hughes
Date: Mar 18 2006 22:05:29
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Hmmm......so why shouldn't the ODPM distribute guidance on trees on development sites as well? I don't understand why guidance on how to avoid breaking the law as it relates to TPOs is free, yet guidance on how to avoid breaking the law as it applies to trees on development sites isn't. If the BSI want to issue overpriced publications, then fine, but when someone is told that trees on their site must be protected to BS5837 or they will be breaking the law, yet that information is not readily available, it seems a bit Kafkaesque. I'm not suggesting that this information is entirely free - obviously there is a cost involved in producing it - but as Jerry pointed out there is only one source for this information which seems to be abusing it's monopoly. I tend to feel the same about Health and Safety regulations - much of what is published by the HSE is only available to those who pay an expensive subscription.

Pete




Scott Cullen wrote:
I think the answer is fairly straight forward.  ODPM is a tax funded 
government ministry.  Their msiion is to distribue guidance.

As I understand it most of these standards bodies are for profit ventures.  They don't give it 
away as a download becuase then fewer people would buy the printed version.  I really think it 
uis just that simple.  They may have obtained some government charter monopoly but they still 
seem allowed to make the money.  It may be onerous or distatsteful but it is what it is.  Would 
you say to somebody else in business, "why don't you give me your product for free," 
"why don't you lower your margin to benefit me?"

It seems similar to the acdemic journal publshers. You pay more per page as a non-subscriber for a download than you would for a hard copy re-print. We may not like it but it is what it is. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Hughes To: UK Tree Care Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 1:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Storm the BSI!


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Yep, totally agree with you here Jerry. I really do not understand why BS5837, 3998 etc. cannot be available to download free of charge, like many other documents such as the TPO guidance on the ODPM website. At £3.53 a page (I just worked it out ;-) ) the cost to buy BS5837 is ludicrous.




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