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RE: Tree Root related subsidence and Woodland TPO's

Subject: RE: Tree Root related subsidence and Woodland TPO's
From: Gordon Dewdney WRE Tree Inspector
Date: Jun 06 2006 09:28:35
Thanks Bill,
In fact shading isn't an issue here - and they have chosen two immature
specimens close to the property. My issue here isn't necessarily individual
tree loss as I am fairly pragmatic about proven root damage and tree
removal, but more the LA's liability and the precedent that it might set.

Gordon Dewdney
Arboriculturalist
Essex County Council
Tel: 01245 435834
Ext: 55834


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Subject: Re: Tree Root related subsidence and Woodland TPO's

In a message dated 05/06/2006 10:53:18 GMT Standard Time, 
Gordon.Dewdney@xxxxxxxx.gov.uk writes:

The case in question is alleging that two trees in particular out of the
entire woodland that the property backs onto are causing the problem.
Quite
how they have deduced this is beyond me, and why they think that the
removal
of these two will do anything to abate it, I have no idea.

Do these two trees happen to be the largest ones in the wood casting most 
shade on the garden Gordon?

I've defended a ludicrous suggestion of a woodland causing subsidence  by a 
similar method; "how do you know it's these trees and not any of the
others?" 
But I then had to acknowledge that the woodland had been TPOd and then not 
touched for 20 years. We can't really get away from the fact that shade
problems 
are going to develop over that sort of time and the problem needs to be 
addressed. The "you shouldn't have built the house" argument just won't
wash.

As far as I can see the removal of a couple of trees out of hundreds just 
isn't going to make any difference. (Thank you Adam for the eloquence of
"mean 
annual increment and leaf area per unit area"). If it was reasonable I'd
fell 
the trees if it makes the resident's life a bit easier but if they do come
back 
wanting more doing cos it hasn't worked, well you've got the "it didn't work

last time, why should it work this time" argument to throw back at em.

I am concerned that TPOs of whatever hue do not enforce the routine 
management of woodlands or trees and how this situation will affect the long
term tree 
population of our cities I do not know. Too many tree/ woodland owners 
(individual and LA) fall back on the "it's protected you can't do anything"
approach, 
which is ultimately counter-productive.

Bill.



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