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RE: Trees in Conservation Areas

Subject: RE: Trees in Conservation Areas
From: Wallbank, Alan
Date: Jan 05 2007 12:05:14
Jonathan,

It's not useful if it wastes time, mine, the planners, others.

We do consult though, and whenever there are trees of any importance or
particular sensitivity involved we notify members or leaflet. Last month
I leafleted a street before I had a Leylandii hedge reduced to clear the
phone lines - work that had to be done regardless, but because we'd had
issues in the locality before I took pains to give everyone an
opportunity to comment. Quite what I would have done if consensus hadn't
been reached I don't know - bulldozed it through because I know best?
Isn't that some of what being a pro is about?

BUT - rule of thumb tree stock for Telford environs is >3 million trees.
Two TO's covering - that's a lot of trees to make decisions on without
going to the far end of a fart consulting every jackanapes who thinks he
has an idea.

My NY resolution to drink less fades as we write...

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Mills [mailto:cookleylandscapes@xxxxxx.com] 
Sent: 05 January 2007 11:45
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Trees in Conservation Areas

Hear Hear!!

BUT as LA are required to do ever more 'consultation' with stake holders
ie residents. Regardless of the legal requirements the section
211 notice with its consulation periods could be suitable methodology to
acheive your government targets for consultations and community
involvement.

I know several authorities where if a tree is to be felled all local
members need to be notified. Not so they can object, only that when
their phone starts ringing they have an answer.

As Telford is such a great place good parks and green spaces I am sure
there must be a high interest in environmental issues. It all goes to
show how much of a hot subject trees are in this day and age.

Jonathan Mills

On 05/01/07, Wallbank, Alan <Alan.Wallbank@xxxxxxxx.gov.uk> wrote:
Bill,

I agree, and have tackled this particular member - word used advisedly

- before.

I can justify my decision, but what I wanted to clarify was that I 
would be fully within my rights to state to him, publicly if need be, 
that we do not need LPA consent to fell trees is I, as TO, make a 
professional decision to fell trees. The sheer waste and circularity 
of giving a notice that will wing its way back to my own desk for my 
own opinion is just wasteful and I don't want to engage in that kind
of crap!

Trouble is Bill we are victims of a requirement to consult 
stakeholders that goes all the way back to LA21 and Rio and so on, and

it gums up the works something awful! A guy should be trusted to do 
his job properly without the needless input of uninformed 
opportunists. And that's my grump for the day. Enjoy the weekend!

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Andersonarb@xxxx.com [mailto:Andersonarb@xxxx.com]
Sent: 05 January 2007 09:34
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Trees in Conservation Areas


In a message dated 05/01/2007 09:20:03 GMT Standard Time, 
Alan.Wallbank@xxxxxxxx.gov.uk writes:

I would,  of course, like to shut him up by having chapter and verse 
as a last  resort.



You could point out what a waste of money it would be to make an 
application/notice of intent to yourself only for this to be nodded 
through...  Of course you could give the Secretary of State notice of 
intent and cost the  taxpayer even more money.

You could suggest that the politician commissions his own expert to 
give him an opinion, at his own expense of course, just to prove you 
that you had not acted prudently?

It does annoy me why some of you LA bods don't just turn round and 
tell these puffed up politicians that they're your representatives 
just as much as they're everybody elses and that by and large we'd all

be a lot more impressed with em if they actually did a bit of thinking

before letting their stupid mouths run away with em!

Huh! Bah! etc.

Bill.


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