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Re: putting a price on trees

Subject: Re: putting a price on trees
From: Scott Cullen
Date: Jun 13 2007 09:52:19
The dozen eggs analogy is misleading.  It asume sthat there is one value only 
and that is for making breakfast.  It is rather like the Helliwell System 
assuming that nobody wants to no anything about tree value but visual 
amenity.  BUt the value of the eggs (price paid) to you for your own 
breakfast might vary from the value to the B&B which marks them up 32x 
(revenue earned).  The value to an artist to make that egg based paint 
(whatever they call it) might vary, the value to the lads who want to throw 
them at unpopular politicians may be way more than price if they get their 
point in the papers, a lot less if they get thrown in jail!

Tree guys may want to believe or prefer that amenity trees should be like 
home-consumption market goods. Typicakky trained in the natural or physical 
sciences or trhe trades and following Shigo's dictum, want to touch trees.  
They want value to be like weight or color os some other constant physical 
characteristic yhat can me measured.  It can't.  It is not that kind of 
quality or characteristic.

So John is right, there is no one problem nor one value.  So should we throiw 
up our hands and give up?  Say why bother?  Let's back up a step.  Why do we 
bother?  What is valuation about?  Valuation is an aid to decison makers.  
What decsion needs to be made? Who needs to make it?  If we (arbs) can't get 
our heads 'round that need to define the problem and put away our diameter 
tapes, we shouldn't be trying to be valuers.  

IMO valuation should be a specilaty.  You wouldn't send the same crew out to 
dismantle a huge dnagerous dead tree and to prune the 200 year old topiaries! 
 DIfferent skills, different personalities.  

Thanks to John for reminding me about defining the problem.  The literature 
is very clear about all this.  Lots of citations in my upcoming paper in 
Arboricultural Journal.

SC
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andersonarb@xxxx.com 
  To: UK Tree Care 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:04 AM
  Subject: Re: putting a price on trees



  In a message dated 13/06/2007 09:35:19 GMT Standard Time,  
  j.heuch@xxxxxxxxxxx.com writes:

  I've no  time to go into it in detail but you do really need to sort 
defining
  the  problem before identifying how to solve it. There is no one solution  
or
  value.



  You see? We start with a conundrum; the price of half a dozen free range  
  eggs in Sainsbury's is pretty well fixed whether you're using them for an  
  omelette or a full English breakfast. It doesn't change depending on why 
you  want 
  em.
   
  Bill.



     


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