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Re: The missing factor in risk assessment

Subject: Re: The missing factor in risk assessment
From: Scott Cullen
Date: Aug 20 2007 11:00:26
I've just scanned the John Adams paper (thanks Jeremy) from the recent risk 
assessment seminar.  He applies a similar conceptual analysis to valuation.  
In very basic terms Cost Benefit Analyses (CBA) weigh obviously costs and 
benefits.  These are often elicited as Willingness to Pay (WTA) and 
Willingness to Accept (WTA).  Tons of studies in the literature showing that 
contrary to economic theory assuming "perfect markets" WTA frequenlty exceeds 
WTP by factors of say 2 to 10!  Economists try to explain this away with all 
sorts of....struggling explanations. But the pattern remains.  Adams then 
notes that depending on how the elicitation is structured a condition can be 
a cost in one but a benefit in another.  Now assuming C<>B, that means that 
the result will be positive in one variant and negative in the other.  But 
when we understand that WTP and WTA can differ by orders of magnitude the 
significance is much more than plus-minus or gain-loss.

The point, as Martin makes here, is that the conceptual analysis and the 
maths attached can make a drastic difference in what the data come out saying.

Way too easy to get caught up in analysis and numerical results.  I think, 
and I'm happy for other thoughts, Adams's point is that all these analyses 
must be framed by common sense.

SC 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Norris 
  To: UK Tree Care 
  Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:23 AM
  Subject: RE: The missing factor in risk assessment


  The influence of each of the variables in tree risk methods is quite 
interesting and rarely discussed. The influence of each input variable can be 
calculated, and will vary according to the range and weighting of each input 
and the mathematics used to calculate the output value. Various sensitivity 
analysis methods exist. Regression sensitivity is relatively easy to apply, 
attached is an analysis of a two category tree risk method (just to make a 
change from QTRA!). It shows that Likelihood with this method accounts for 
about 80% of the variation in the output, whilst Consequence only accounts 
for 19% of the variation. 

  Regards
   
  Martin

   
  ________________________________

  From: Simon Valente [mailto:arborist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.wanadoo.co.uk]
  Sent: Mon 20/08/2007 5:57 PM
  To: UK Tree Care
  Subject: RE: The missing factor in risk assessment




  Hi Mike,

  Thanks for the clarification.

  I See you did not disagree with my main point... that being able to foresee 
tree failure is a major component of the risk assessment process.

  Simon Valente




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  Message Received: Aug 20 2007, 07:06 AM
  From: "Mike Ellison"
  To: "UK Tree Care"
  Cc:
  Subject: RE: The missing factor in risk assessment

  Simon

  You said " there will still always be a element to the risk assessment
  that requires a surveyor/inspector to come up with some sort of responce
  to the question "how likely is it to fail" Even using QTRA which IMHO is
  the best risk assessment method for trees available to us, we still have
  to answer this key question, it is a major (one third) component."

  Probability of Failure isn't a third, it is one of three primary
  components being assessed but may contribute substantially more or less
  than a third to the risk of harm outcome.

  Mike


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