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RE: Compensation

Subject: RE: Compensation
From: Simon Keenan
Date: Nov 12 2007 22:05:50
Bill, 

If you don't mind my saying but your posting is rather convoluted and I
would love to enter into dialogue with you if I only knew your exact point. 

Cheers
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Andersonarb@xxxx.com [mailto:Andersonarb@xxxx.com] 
Sent: 07 November 2007 18:25
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Compensation 

 
In a message dated 07/11/2007 13:01:29 GMT Standard Time,  
Paul.Casey@xxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk writes:

Not sure  how the reduction works are linked to the highway clearance
works?



I'm not saying this is a real life situation. But imagine the owner has  
proposed to remedy the highway clearance by taking the admittedly rather
drastic  
step of removing the tree. This effectively saves him the ongoing expense of

pruning (admittedly minor) this tree every couple of years. The proposal to

remove is prevented by a TPO which he tests by appealing. The whole
situation 
is not of his making, he's obliged to keep a tree that he doesn't want  and 
he's obliged to commit funds to ongoing maintenance. 
 
This particular imaginary situation is a difficult pruning job that will
run 
to 4 figures. Removal would be a similar figure but a one-off. Inspectors  
opinion that the alternative of pruning is not an unreasonable expense is
culled 
 from a couple of decisions I've seen and to my mind depends on whether you 
think  4 figures is unreasonable. I've got a sneaking suspicion that 4
figures 
would be  seen as reasonable for a developer, less so for Jo and Joanna.
 
Mynors ponders on subsidence damage and forestry value only touching on the

subject of pruning expenses. The impression you get from him is that this is
a 
 fairly obvious expense that he presumed would be a consideration in the  
original TPO deliberations. 
 
If it helps try and imagine telling farmer Joe Grundy to raise the crown of

a tree over the highway whereupon Joe wanders out with his borrowed JCB and

dozes the thing straight over into the field. "Whaddyathink I am, some sort
of  
simian? says Joe when confronted by the irate Tree Officer. It sounds 
reasonable  to me when put like that, less so if the removal would have been
a 
complex LOLER  operation.
 
As for muddying the waters; as it 'appens I won a recent appeal over just  
such a thing. I'm not saying the expense of pruning was the only issue, but

nonetheless the Inspector agreed that the Council had no right to demand  
extensive pruning. I wish he'd been a bit more forthright about it as it was
couched 
in Inspector-speak, but you can't have everything.
 
I am fairly regularly surprised by some TOs who seem to think they can
spend 
a tree owners money as they see fit, especially if it's a developer.
 
Bill.



   


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