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From: Chris Hastie
To: UK Tree Care
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: AA Journal Articles
You're not suggesting that even the bit at the top of the first page of
each journal that says "(c) AB Academic Publishers" is so copyright that
it can't be reproduced here are you?
Actually, I'm not sure that it is uncommon for organisations to use
specialist publishers, and in doing so assign the copyright to them. The
ISA is an interesting exception: until relatively recently the JoA was
not copyrighted at all.
To back up what Chris notes, it is very common for professional societies to
have a journal that is in fact published by a company in the buisenss of
doing it. The publisher typically hold copyright for everything that author
ever has to say about the subject for ever and ever in any forum, venue or
publication. That's a bit sarcastic... But the typical author's agreement
foisted on gullible authors says you forever after have to ask for permission
to copy or use your own paper.
Understand this is a huge and profitable business with giants like Elsevier,
Blackwell, Kluwer and others dominating the field.
There is something of a backlash among some authors. Some sort of consortium
set up that provides an "author firendly" agreement that assigns the
publisher the exclusive right to first publish the paper in a collection of
other papers that constitute an issue of a journal and non-exclusive rights
to re-publish or re-print that collection, including in other languages. The
author retains all other rights, including copying and distyributing the
paper after that first publication, including it in a book or other
collection and so forth.
Notwithstanding the whining of the publishers... this consortium pretty well
documents that the publishers' costs and profit are covered by that first
publishing and thus the rest is gravey.
The problem is that academics are desperate to get published to get tenure
and to get grants so they are conditioned to surrender their rights.
What I find very amusing is that now that we have the internet a virtually
all papers are digitally submitted the publishers charge more to download a
single copy of a single paper than they ever did for hard copies of the same
ISA is indeed anomolous in self publishing. The ISA (C) is new. ISA
actually has compositiion and printing done externally on contract now.
If I recall the name of that authors' consortium I'll follow up with it.
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