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Re: FORGOTTEN RPA SHAPES

Subject: Re: FORGOTTEN RPA SHAPES
From: Luke Steer
Date: Feb 26 2008 21:06:09
Hi Bill,
  I understand your sentiments but having worked in local government I also 
know that TOs will ask for less and create less hoops to be jumped through if 
they have all the information to start with.  Circular RPAs are ideal for 
open sites but once you get buildings and roads I see it as our job to show 
the LPA that the proposals can be implemented without causing undue harm to 
the trees.  To do that we have to give them all the information.  If I make 
them guess they will be harder to convince.  Show them credible RPAs that are 
of the correct area and fit everything else around them.  If necessary 
formulate a strong argument about why the tree doesn't need an RPA as big as 
that recommended in the standard.  Use tree sensitive foundations if you need 
to.  If you don't think that the proposals can be implemented without harming 
important trees tell the client and if they continue then on their head be it.
   
    Regards
   
    Luke Steer
    Chartered Forester - Arboricultural Consultant
   
  Treescapes Consultancy Ltd.
  Melbourne
  17 Millans Park
  Ambleside
  Cumbria
  LA22 9AG
   
  Tel/Fax: 015394 34698
  Mobile: 07734 113964
  Email: luketreescapes@xxxxxxxxxxx.com 



  

Andersonarb@xxxx.com wrote:
  
In a message dated 26/02/2008 18:40:16 GMT Standard Time, 
mjc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk writes:

I include a copy of the tree constraints site plan and the tree survey
schedule as Appendices to the AIA. If I didn't, a lot of the report would
have very little context.



I dunno if you're blaming the right people here. I write reports for the 
client who will presumably pass it to the Architect/designer. Unless it's the 
Architect who's commissioned it of course. I'm not sure whether the LA 
actually 
have the 'right' to see the designer's tools, (ie the TCP) especially since 
so many LAs regard the Arbs report to simply be another hoop that they can 
force the applicant to jump through for no real reason other than box ticking.

I've never quite decided whether the TCP ought to bother showing RPAs for C 
grade trees anyway, (although the site layout usually shows removed trees). 
And anyway the RPA ultimately depends on the layout; all a TCP can show a 
designer is ideal RPAs so they might just as well be round.

If you've got a dispute about the Arbs appraisal then you've got to get out 
on site and prepare your case, if it's blatantly inaccurate you can simply 
reject the application, can't you? I seem to get some Planners who are 
determined to never visit a site and just try to work it all out from 
drawings and 
words.

If you've seen hundreds Simon you need some assistance, leastways it seems 
to take so long for a planning appy to get decided my local planners must 
take 
weeks studying them!

Bill.





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