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RE: When the earth moves [Scanned]

Subject: RE: When the earth moves [Scanned]
From: Addison, Gilbert
Date: Jun 23 2008 12:55:33
I guess it depends on the substrate Ed - there are plenty of places in
Norfolk where it would be a surprise if the ground didn't move - I'm
sure you know some. However, in the normal run of things I think I would
rather not feel movement.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Hopkins [mailto:Edmund.Hopkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk] 
Sent: 23 June 2008 13:10
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: When the earth moves [Scanned]

I have not inspected this tree Ian so cannot answer those questions. Nor
can I say whether nearby structures have lifted. I do know that by the
time I get there any radial or circumferential cracking may have closed
without trace.

No my question to all you tree inspectors is how do you know, and by
extension, is there published research out there to help inform your
judgements?

Quoting Ian Brewster <Ian.Brewster@xxxxx.gov.uk>:


Is there evidence of Radial or Circumferential cracking at a short 
distance to the main stem which may suggest root fracture and 
potential plate failure. Other than this it sounds like the trees 
natural flexing and necessity to stimulate reactive wood growth of 
underlying anchor roots where required, usually the side of prevailing
wind.

Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Hopkins [mailto:Edmund.Hopkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk]
Sent: 23 June 2008 12:49
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: When the earth moves

Now and again I have found myself next to a tree flexing in the ground

during high winds. It's quite fun feeling the ground rise and fall 
beneath your feet without having to drink to get there.

Is this ground movement a reason to fell or is it perhaps an 
understandable physical event without serious health and safety 
inplications?

Could it even be both and how the hell should we then distinguish 
between the two?

One of those trees I enjoyed teetering (a biggish Beech) is still 
there
5 years on, and if I hadn't been there at the time I'd never have
known.

I only ask because I have a client with a TPO'd tree and he felt the 
earth move beneath it this weekend.

Edmund

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