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RE: Highway tree responsibility

Subject: RE: Highway tree responsibility
From: Simon Valente
Date: Sep 05 2008 14:47:47
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 Ben asked...

" there is not a lot can be done to protect these trees, or is there?"

If you feel it's important then there is always something YOU can do. Talk to 
the local politicians, if necessary get the local  radio/papers involved and 
bang on about health and safety gone mad etc, get other locals involved, kick 
up a stink. Have the trees valued (make up a big number if you have to, who's 
gonna argue?) to show the level of loss and stupidity involved. 

Get the picture?

Simon (Swampy) Valente
 
 

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 Message Received: Sep 05 2008, 03:33 PM
 From: "Howe, Ron" 
 To: "UK Tree Care" 
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 Subject: RE: Highway tree responsibility
 
 
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 Ben,
 
 I'm sure some Highway Officers will clarify the position, but IMHO the
 tree is not a hazard in any form as long as it's in a healthy, sound and
 stable condition and therefore, if someone hits it, it should be down to
 their own stupidity. What about the thread some short time back where
 there were trees retained in the highway. The HA would be strongly
 advised to make an application unless it could be clearly demonstrated
 the trees were exempt or a statutory nuisance. What about low bridges.
 Do they modify them? What about street furniture ... Road signs, traffic
 lights. How many of them are level with the curb and get struck by
 vehicles.
 
 Ron Howe
 Tree Officer
 Environment Department
 Mole Valley District Council
 Pippbrook
 Dorking
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 From: ben riches [mailto:treecraft@xxxxxxxx.co.uk] 
 Sent: Fri, 05 September 2008 15:21
 To: UK Tree Care
 Subject: Highway tree responsibility
 
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 A group of mature trees form a 'tunnel' over a well used country 'B'
 road. This group is protected by a Group TPO.
 A mature beech in this group has a large limb over the highway which
 gives a clearance of 4.8m at the edge of the carriageway, less than the
 5.2m requested by the highways department. The limb is so significant
 that the loss of it will mean the whole tree will have to be remove due
 to its 'unique' (wind battered) form.
  
 The Highways Dept. have also requested 0.6m clearance in from the edge
 of the carriageway be maintained. This would result in the loss of
 approximately 4 more mature trees and a significant feature in this
 small part of the world.
  
 If a high-sided vehicle collided with this limb or any of the trees, who
 would be responsible? The driver for driving without due care and
 attention, the Highways Dept. for not maintaining a clear carriageway,
 or the tree owner for allowing the tree to pose a hazard?
  
 I guess as Highway Regs over-rule TPO protection that there is not a lot
 can be done to protect these trees, or is there?
  
 Regards
  
 Ben
  
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