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RE: Tree risk management

Subject: RE: Tree risk management
From: Martin Norris
Date: Nov 26 2008 23:13:30
You can buy the book from Bartlett's isn't expensive

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Bryson [] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 8:02 PM
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Tree risk management

Hello all!

Just a quickie, does anyone know if the Bartlett 'Tree Risk Assessment'
document is available to view online? And if so does anyone have the
link? I've tried Google but haven't sourced it yet!

Many thanks
Richard Bryson
AllAboutTrees Ltd
Arboricultural & Ecological Consulting
Chartered Arboriculturalists & Environmentalists Unit B10 Durham Dales
Centre Castle Gardens Stanhope Co Durham
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-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Hopkins []
Sent: 25 November 2008 08:28
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: FC sell off? [Scanned]

I support every word of this, except I've forgotten exactly what clause
4 is or was. Much of the least economically viable part of the estate
was sold off piecemeal, and a few of us hobbyists now own a scrap. What
now remains is bound to be of interest to the big EU management

From a fairly murky past the Forestry Commission for some time now have
provided british forestry with exemplary good practice in how to manage
land for nature conservation and public enjoyment, and have done rather
better as a landowner than a regulator in my view. This would not all go
down the plughole with a sell off but commerce would steadily erode it.

The production end of forestry is not very sustainable even now, with
most timber movements by road and for long distances, and as the present
economic conditions shut down more local mills that will get worse.

I was talking to a fencing contractor the other day and he said that
whilst most of his bars and rails are still british grown, all his
stakes come from the Baltic, and not only are they cheaper but the
quality is better than UK can offer.

Edmund Hopkins
Tree Officer
Planning Services
Nottingham City Council
Bring back clause IV

Maggie tried to privatise FC but failed, we just got more sporadic sell
offs of woodlands (I would suggest an increase in disposals is actually
an attempted defence against a wholesale sell off).  Most of the same
arguments we used against it then still hold good, but I fear thirst for
cash is probably is probably a more difficult opponent to overcome than
dogma. The regular auction of FC timber keeps the British timber
infrastructure working. The private sector only sell when prices are
high or they have to. Otherwise mills etc are likely to move entirely to
ports and much British forestry will become even more marginal as
transport costs are an absolute killer. Just the ticket when woodfuel is
being trumpeted as an important element of carbon friendly energy (and
the wind doesn't even have to blow continuously). This will further
reduce the price the private sector would pay for these assets. The FC
actually frequently actually manage to overvalue their current limited
disposals, as supply is limited and its take it or leave it. (Cheap
disposals tend to be poor timber of limited amenity value and far from
markets). Won't hold true when there's umpteen times what anyone is ever
going to want to buy all available at once though. 50/60/70 year returns
aren't all that popular if anyone is considering anything beyond
creaming and flogging on. Public usage is unlikely to be generally
favoured, and whilst it might have to be tolerated to an extent is
unlikely to be encouraged on other than a commercial basis, denying the
public a huge opportunity that the national forest estate should provide
if multipurpose forestry could be properly valued - as set against say
the convenience of a short term one off cash injection.

Bad all round then - unless you just happen to be keen on getting hold
of some cheap timber short term, in which case it's great.
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