Re: Alternative extraction/conversion etc
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From: | benfuest | |
Date: | Dec 09 2008 16:37:54 |
Anthony really good info, I am not at all surprised though. Last year hear
in the Brecon Beacons we there was a bio mass/wood fuel get together thing
in a field with lot of reps from boiler companies with lots of info on
boiler performance, all very credible. But like I said supply chain is every
thing and personally I don't think the infrastructure is there or indeed the
timber product to convert. The subject pushes the right buttons and there
are people out there trying to fund Unimogs at 60k plus chippers and
trailers in the hope of procuring contracts to fulfil a perceived demand.
But where is the crop to harvest ? miles away and it gets further away every
year as local supplies dry up.
sometimes I work a local estate feeling and extracting for wood fuel chip, in its second year I think. But give it two more and they will have to start importing from elsewhere, then what happens. 1/4 million pounds worth of kit going rusty. People don¬t like commercial 2m spacing of rapid poplar, but that is what is required to keep it all going. You can go out tomorrow and buy a boiler and a computer to run it, but no amount of money will make the trees grow any faster ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthony mills" <anthony.j.mills@xxxxxx.com>
To: "UK Tree Care" <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Alternative extraction/conversion etc 2008/12/9 benfuest <benfuest@xxxxxxxxx.co.uk>
So were all in agreement, we can`t do on the cheep. Fuel wood is and always will be an expensive option that just makes us feel good, nothing wrong withthat. Having said that there is now in vogue wood fuel for bio mass, andthat is just processed fire wood, Spam. This requires a much more committedcommercial approach. The supply chain is everything, I think the planting must be done in such a way as to assist in the harvesting and conversion process and the storage facility must marry to the hopper for feed to boiler.Hello - the NHS Trust I work for installed 3 new wood-pellet fired boilersat a hospital in Surrey last March, and we all applauded the change to a renewable and cheaper fuel. The price of wood pellet then was about £175per tonne = 3.5p/Kwh, cheaper than heating oil per Kwh, which went to nearly70p per Kwh in July. The price now is close to £250 per tonne or 5p/Kwhwhile oil has dropped to 35p per litre or 4.2p/Kwh with scarce supplies andvery few suppliers of pellet.
Since they use about 7 tonnes a week, the Trust is not happy with these changes... nor with the prospect of wood becoming even scarcer and more expensive. Anthony Mills -- The UK Tree Care mailing list To unsubscribe send mailto:uktc-unsubscribe@xxxxxx.tree-care.info The UKTC is supported by The Arbor Centre http://www.arborcentre.co.uk/ -- The UK Tree Care mailing list To unsubscribe send mailto:uktc-unsubscribe@xxxxxx.tree-care.info The UKTC is supported by The Arbor Centre http://www.arborcentre.co.uk/
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