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RE: Log prices/weight?

Subject: RE: Log prices/weight?
From: Jim Quaife
Date: Dec 12 2008 12:49:59
Don't ever, ever sell by weight unless you weigh the load.
It's a long time ago now but a heaped load in a Toyota was about 0.6 tonne, 
and a farm trailer was 2 tonnes (we had a weighbridge ½ mile down the road). 
With the trailer we were told by one regular customer who bagged the logs and 
sold them on to his neighbours that on average the 2 tonnes contained 1400 
logs (split). 
All green wood is around 1 cubic mete to the tonne, but dried wood obviously 
more.
Don't ever, ever sell by weight unless you weigh the load.
As has been noted in previous postings, there is little if any residual value 
in the wood, it is all labour and handling.   When I worked as a woodland 
manager we put out about 500 tonnes of firewood each winter, predominantly of 
fresh Birch.
We felled areas of Birch woodland for new planting and had a Stanley 
hydraulic guillotine to cut the wood (12" max diameter as I recall) and the 
width of the blade virtually split the larger diameter wood.  the main 
advantages were i) it never got blunt with dirt or snow(it would just snip 
through or displace metal or stones) and ii) it was safe and could be used by 
a YTS student (!) - as opposed to a sawbench.  It was slower in cutting time, 
but there was virtually no downtime and as a result it was more productive 
over a day.  The use of YTS lads made the whole thing quite profitable, but 
it wasn't exactly a licence to print money.
Don't ever, ever sell by weight unless you weigh the load.
Jim
P.S. Did I mention that you should never, ever sell by weight unless you 
weigh the load?

-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Jobson [mailto:russell.jobson@xxxxxx.com] 
Sent: 12 December 2008 11:20
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Log prices/weight?

Hello People

As an aside to a recent thread where log prices were discussed I was 
wondering the following:

From travelling around I estimate £75  to be average for a pick-up load. 
What, in tonage, do people think that equates to? (granted this would be 
variable dependant on type of timber/green/dried etc but a general average 
will do)

I ask as I noted that a large wood yard near me, is selling split hardwood 
(most likely fresh timber) delivered (25 mile radius) @ £399 - 3 ton   & 
£325   - 1.5 ton. 

Festive regards

Russ

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