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RE: TPOs and bird poo

Subject: RE: TPOs and bird poo
From: Barry Anderson
Date: Jan 06 2009 14:59:11
Game birds (pheasant, partridge, woodcock, snipe etc) are still covered by a
close season under schedule 2.1 of the Act. They can be shot outside of the
closed season providing you carry a game license. 

The so called pest species (wood pigeon, crow, magpie etc) were on schedule
2.2 and could be killed by authorised persons at any time. All of the birds
on schedule 2.2 were removed from it in the 90's and given full protection.
The general licences described below by Ben allows killing of these species
but it must be for the reasons stated under the terms of the license. 

Unbelievably it is now illegal to shoot a wood pigeon for the pot. You can
eat it after you have shot it for the protection of crops however. Providing
you shot it after all non-lethal methods of crop protection were tried and
discounted as being ineffective. 

House sparrow and Starling were later removed from the general license and
given full protection.

Barry

-----Original Message-----
From: Alastair Durkin [mailto:ADurkin@xxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk] 
Sent: 06 January 2009 14:40
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: TPOs and bird poo

What about Pheasant, Wood pigeon, Grouse, Woodcock etc? Have I broken the
law on the odd occasion? Not that I've ever shot a Woodcock or a Grouse mind
you!


-----Original Message-----
From: Ben [mailto:ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.org.uk]
Sent: 06 January 2009 13:26
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: TPOs and bird poo

Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet but.......

It is an offence under section 1 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act for any
person to kill, injure or take any wild bird or to take, damage or destroy a
nest of a wild bird while in use; or to take or destroy an egg of a wild
bird.

The government gives annual licences  -
http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/conservation/wildlife-management-licensing/
genlicences.htm
but these are very restricted.

The three licences that deal with killing wild birds (there is a fourth for
aerodrome operators) are:

Licence to kill or take certain birds to prevent serious damage or disease.

Licence to kill or take certain birds to preserve public health or public
safety.

Licence to kill or take certain birds to conserve wild birds.

Have a good look at them and their guidance notes on the Natural England
website. Unless you are very sure that one of the licences applies you could
be prosecuted for killing pigeons, magpies or any other wild bird. They
don't cover general nuisance and they do specify that non lethal
alternatives must be used unless these are ineffective or impracticable.

Not sure if it is true but I have been told that  people who supply wild
birds for the table usually have applied for and been given specific
licences.

If you think there should be a new general licence for example - for the
killing of birds to prevent TPO tree owners having bird poo on their
atios  - perhaps this could be suggested in the current consultation on
general licences
http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/consultations/general-licences/default.htm
The closing date for responses is 13 March 2009.


Regards

Ben Holding
AAIS



----- Original Message -----
From: "Liam McKarry" <Liam.McKarry@xxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk>
To: "UK Tree Care" <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:48 PM
Subject: TPOs and bird poo


I've just had a bizarre conversation with a member of the public
regarding her wanting to remove a large number of branches from a TPO'd
tree because of all the bird poo being deposited.



Now in my limited experience of bird poo there was quite a lot - she
feels that there are health implications and wants to use that as a
reason to cut the branches back (way in excess of 30% reduction) - other
than the aforementioned problem there is no other reason for the work.



Anyone have any experience of this one before?



Liam McKarry

Arboricultural Planning Officer



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