Hi All,
I've got an interesting central village factory site. Loads of crap trees;
densely planted willows, poplars etc.; established in 1984; most are Cat C
and degrading. I don't consider that the current situation provides a
sustainable treescape but it is a significant feature within the village.
I'm sure that the planners would like to retain a tree feature in this
location so I'm going to recommend to the client that the majority of these
trees are removed and others established in strategic locations to re-create
it. If we do this I'm sure that we won't hit the recommended density of
units for the size of the plot. I'm sure that the architect will try to
shoe horn in as many houses as possible and then the LPA will ask for the
numbers to be reduced and room left for trees. I'll keep you posted about
what happens next.
Regards
Luke Steer BSc.(Hons). Dip.Arb.(RFS). F.Arbor.A. MICFor.
Chartered Arboriculturist
Treescapes Consultancy Ltd.
Melbourne
17 Millans Park
Ambleside
Cumbria
LA22 9AG
015394 34698 (Office)
07734 113964 (Mobile)
luke.steer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: GILES HILL [mailto:lsdp@xxxxxxxxxxx.com]
Sent: 25 July 2009 17:05
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: BS5837- tree contribution
Some interesting points there Bill.
I can't help thinking the argument for downgrading trees, because they might
not be maintained is avoiding the spirit of the BS.
Personally I would tend to consider such trees as A or B category, for their
landscape value. Often they're the most important trees in terms of
mitigating new development. Also they might be essential elements of the
landscape character of an area - e.g. rows of mature pollarded limes on
property frontages might require regular cutting, but their character can't
be replaced with a line of conveniently sized rowans.
I appreciate your point about not forcing the new owner to accept the
responsibility for maintenance, but equally I'm not happy with making an
assumption on their behalf, that they would want trees to be removed rather
than maintaining them - surely they can decide for themselves?
I like the idea of the developer being required to maintain trees in some
circumstances - sometimes it actually happens.
Trees identified as C category are effectively fair game for removal. Your
parting comment must be a wind up, isn't it? Some sites have nothing better
than C category trees, but that should be based on a judgement of the
specific trees, not the fact that the site is going to be developed. If a
site's covered in A category trees then of course it's a site - it might
mean you have to loose some A category trees as part of the development
proposal, but you don't have to be disingenuous about it.
Giles
----- Original Message -----
From: <Andersonarb@xxxx.com>
To: "UK Tree Care" <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: BS5837- tree contribution
Sorry to be late to this one, (en vacance) but I'd disagree with him too
John. If you've got a tree that's a fine specimen despite routine pruning,
(I'm thinkng of a highway-side tree) then it's downgraded to C as no one
has
any way of forcing the routine management that keeps it a reasonable size
for its location (presumably)and therefore its actual life (before its
outgrown its position) won't reach the 20 year expectancy required for it
to get
to the B category. Even if you volunteer to fund the pruning work I don't
think you can actually force the owner to acept that.
However you could make a planning permission conditional on the developer
undertaking to repeat the pruning..... I seem to frequently come across
Planners who think its perfectly reasonable to expect a tree owner to
undertake
extensive maintenance work simply to suit them, no offer of financial
assistance is ever forthcoming except sometimes in the Peak Park. I do draw
a
distinction between minor routine works (lifting and feathering) and more
major crown reduction.
I think that by definition most trees fall into Cat C, if a site's covered
in Cat As well, it's not really a site; is it?
Bill.
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