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RE: "Summer" branch drop and compromised root systems

Subject: RE: "Summer" branch drop and compromised root systems
From: Sam Corngrass
Date: Aug 22 2009 18:18:33

Looks like it's all about physics. You have stressed trees with internal 
tensions of around 15 atmospheres which is suddenly released by humid weather 
giving rewetting of the wood. This happens on my fruit trees in France and 
they go bang when the pressure is released. I would think this kind of power 
would find any weakness in a branch.
 
From: Andersonarb@xxxx.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:35:46 -0400
Subject: Re: "Summer" branch drop and compromised root systems
To: uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info


In a message dated 21/08/2009 18:37:48 GMT Standard Time, 
rupert_baker@xxxxxxxx.co.uk writes:

On a similar subject, came across a big Cedrus atlantica which had shed
limbs, breaking about 1/3 to 1/2 way out along their length. Tree had old
snags showing similar patterns of failure. The current ones appeared to be
associated with old lateral branch losses/prunings, with discoloration
evident in the central wood of the stem, and on one limb, a very 
distinctive
failure along one annual growth line - like a ring-shake. Any thoughts on
causation on these?



Without the benefit of ever having been anywhere their native range Rupert 
I'd put down the failure of Atlas Cedars (usually blue) entirely down to 
their growing away from their native ranges, the weather doesn't suit them 
at 
all. In particular snow seems to do for them: I recall heavy snow in the 
early eighties wreaking havoc amongst Cedars generally and Atlas Cedars 
seemed to get damaged almost as often as it snowed. I imagine that like 
Monterey Cypress they grow differently depending on the local climate.

Of course we don't seem to see snow so much these days so we've not seen 
quite so many damaged ones. Having said that my crew were up one earlier 
this 
week that was showing a very nice hazard beam crack, which I imagine would 
have broken a long time ago if we'd actually seen a decent snowfall. 
(Sorry should that be a "snow-event?")

When I get round to splitting the firewood from the Atlas I'll look out for 
any discolouration that might relate to broken stubs or something but my 
vague recollections of splitting or sawing Atlas logs doesn't throw up any 
instant memories of specific defects. Certainly not ring shake, although 
come to think of it, I recently moved a few Cedar posts that we've had 
stacked 
up for a while and several of them cracked without showing any obvious 
decay.

To go back to the SBD subject in the header I've seen a couple of trees 
that have shed branches in the last coupla weeks, a HC definitely was 
related 
to past damage and some end-loading and the Beech simply due to a included 
bark and end-loading. I wouldn't really have called it SBD other than it 
was; er.... "Summer" and "Branches" had "dropped." 

Dunno how you'd make out that such a thing was an evolutionary development 
but then again Vera et al really mean we need to reconsider what the 
natural habitat of tree really is and how their evolution might not have 
been in 
woodlands but in a savannah-climax-environment.

Does that make any sense?

Bill.



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