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RE: Modified TPO's

Subject: RE: Modified TPO's
From: Vowell Tony \(Rh-CTGC\)
Date: Dec 15 2009 09:11:16
To take you scenario Steve I would suggest that A has a case of
maladministration since - as you say ' A has not commented, being satisfied
that the trees he wanted protected were on the order.' Surely the TO knew
this and has either deliberately or accidentally left them out. I think the
scenario you have given shows the Council to be a bit cack-handed.


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen.Shields@xxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk
[mailto:Stephen.Shields@xxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk] 
Sent: 14 December 2009 17:08
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: Modified TPO's

"Are you seriously saying that once that area order is signed and served 
then
there can be no modification that includes a new woodland area without a 
new
order, new designation etc, followed by a revocation of the old."

Err Yes.

I understand where you are coming from and agree that in certain 
circumstances that it would make sense to follow that approach.  However 
the law isn't necessarily about sense, its about what is legally 
acceptable.  In the case of TPOs its about process.  Take a different 
scenario:

The LPA out of urgency raise a TPO on and plot of land belonging to B, and 
designate it as an area.  The LPA receive comments and decide to alter the 
TPO to cover the trees as individuals and a woodland.  As part of this 
alteration they leave out 2 lime trees at the bottom of A's garden. 
Hitherto A has not commented, being satisfied that the trees he wanted 
protected were on the order.  As soon as the altered order is served B 
nips out and chops down both trees.  A complains.  He has a copy of an 
order telling him that those trees were protected and that they could not 
be lopped topped felled etc without permission of the LPA.  A checked with 
the LPA when the TPO was served and was told if anyone applied for consent 
to fell the tree then he would be consulted and given an opportunity to 
comment.  Further he was informed that under the councils scheme of 
delegation if he objected to the work and that this was contrary to the 
officer's recommendation the matter would be referred to a planning 
committee.  A is now wanting to know why he was not given the opportunity 
to comment and how a de facto decision to allow the felling of protected 
trees could go ahead without going through a process.


"But they didn't say otherwise either, so arguably it remains to be tested
"

IMHO it has been tested, they said it was outside the scope of the LPAs 
powers to modify an order to the point where it becomes a different 
animal.  They don't need to qualify this its meaning is clear.


Steve



Steve Shields
Trees & Woodland Amenity Protection Officer
Shropshire Council
01743 252582
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