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Re: CAVAT [Scanned]

Subject: Re: CAVAT [Scanned]
From: Jerry Ross
Date: Dec 22 2010 14:12:13

On 22/12/2010 11:58, John Flannigan wrote:
A rather mischievous take on peer review Jerry.

Mischievous?  MOI???

There are plenty of people
capable people out there who could independently consider its merits
questioning all those issues that Scott so eloquently outlined. I am
surprised that the FC have taken it on without such peer review when you
consider its role around tree economics.

The alternative of course is not to peer review but I cannot, hand on heart,
believe that would be better? Arboriculture already relies heavily on the
experiences of individuals rather than more than it should and it is my
opinion that this is to the detriment of good tree care - 'I love trees
but...' being a case in point.


On 22 December 2010 09:17, Jerry Ross<>  wrote:

This is the placing of a monetary value on something, so surely it should
be peer reviewed by economists.

You know, the people who gave us Enron and manage the affairs of of our

On 22/12/2010 09:04, Edmund Hopkins wrote:

Well I know far too little about the process to venture a criticism but I
do wonder who in this case would be the peers? One of the BMJ's problems was
with reviewer anonymity, which they duly abandoned.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Flannigan []
Sent: 21 December 2010 21:08
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: CAVAT [Scanned]

I'm with the consensus that there are no better alternatives to peer
I would suggest that criticisms of it are more about shortcomings of
practice rather than the principle of peer review.

I feel quite strongly that we will more successfully plant and nurture
if we base our actions on sound principles.


-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Hopkins []
Sent: 21 December 2010 16:15
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: CAVAT [Scanned]

Did you hear that piece on R4, the former editor of the British Medical
Journal saying peer review is really not all it's cracked up to be, au

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