The building design, tree constraints, method of
protection measures had all been submitted on the single plan like it had
already been agreed in principle, how presumptuous!!
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From: Ian Brewster <Ian.Brewster@xxxxx.gov.uk>
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:57
Subject: RE: Building Consent and afterthought T.P.P.s
I have occasionally been involved with "old school" negotiators whose
approach to any sort of negotiation is never to give an inch and to get
entrenched before you even start. While you might very well feel liking
telling them where to stick it, the "I couldn't agree more.... but perhaps if
it was done this way it might save you some money" approach is sometimes
better, and perhaps ultimately more satisfying.
The Blue Book does tell us that we shouldn't ask for more information than is
needed to make a decision, and I assume similar logic is applied elsewhere in
the planning process. I've just been on the phone to an Architect who tells
me that one of his recent applications was not validated because North wasn't
clearly shown on a plan, despite everybody concerned knowing where North
was.... There appear to be some Planners who are very keen to stick hurdles
in front of applicants, often to no discernible purpose.
Ho hum,
Bill.
From: Howe, Ron:
Ian, I don't know the answer to your question, but surely a tree
impact/implication study, where appropriate, is sufficient at that point and,
usually, the arb consultant should've done a constraints plan at that stage
otherwise how can they advise on issues! That to me is fine to assess a site.
We
have to be careful not to require too much costly stuff at the outset as that
is
unreasonable and liable to compensation in the name of unnecessary expense
...
It really is no hardship to get the finer details later if the scheme is
consented.
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Yes I can see an implication assessment would be valid following a site
meeting/chat with the TO to determine what could be realistically achieved in
light of the proposed build. Saves all the hassle later on re-jigging the
design/reducing unit numbers to accommodate good trees etc.
The example I gave to Tom was where a TCP was received from a developer that
failed to acknowledge trees worthy of retention, omitting them, their Crown
Spread/Dbh... from the plan. The building design, tree constraints, method of
protection measures had all been submitted on the single plan like it had
already been agreed in principle, how presumptuous!! Where a simple tree
survey
would have been most useful without the hatched lines and architects building
info. The developer appeared to downgrade trees in favour of this development
and was not prepared to work with the Planning Department, even to shift the
design a few metres away (there was room) thus avoiding conflict with good
trees. This would have made the design valid from an arboricultural
perspective.
I expect most Tree Consultants confident in the building design, apart from
the
tree survey, would also carry out the implication assessment, method
statement
and protection plan during the single visit. Those that find themselves
having
to provide something for a developer at the latter stages, without seeking
prior
tree advice must feel very awkward with BS principles thrown out the window
and
two fingers crossed that they'll still get paid when it starts to get
complicated.
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