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RE: BS5837 Breast Height

Subject: RE: BS5837 Breast Height
From: Charles Bennett
Date: Apr 26 2012 14:54:55
Does everything have to have an acronym the knowledge of which is only 
available to a few, which when applied by those in the know varies from 
person to person and is confusing. DBH is history, or at least it should be.

How about Diameter Measured at 1.5m



Charles Bennett
Landscape Architect/Tree Officer
Economic Development
Carlisle City Council
Civic Centre
Carlisle   CA3 8QG
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-----Original Message-----
From: Addison, Gilbert [mailto:gilbert.addison@xxxxxxx.co.uk] 
Sent: 26 April 2012 15:49
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: BS5837 Breast Height

Charles - would you like to propose an abbreviation that slips off the tongue 
with no more friction than Dbh?


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Gilbert Addison CEnv
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Bennett [mailto:CharlesB@xxxxxxxxx.gov.uk] 
Sent: 26 April 2012 15:44
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: BS5837 Breast Height

Maybe when the chaps, and chapess's at the Ministry tired and confused with a 
standard that was anything but standard, varying as it does with the 
individual, decided to set a fixed standard. This might have been decided on 
by measuring the Breast Height of Mr Miggins of the Ministry, which 
coincidently was 1.5m. Of course if they had measured the Breast Height of 
his wife, Mrs Miggins, who also worked at the Ministry, they would have 
arrived a value of 1.3m. Although measuring the latter might have fallen foul 
of their Dignity and Respect Policy.

Breast height is what it is. The breast height of the individual. It is not a 
standard fixed height. It is as variable as the person doing the measuring. 
1.5m is no more Breast Height than 1.3m is 1.5m. We need to get away from 
saying Diameter at Breast Height, and say diameter at 1.5m, at least for the 
purposes of RPA's and Conservation Areas.


Charles Bennett
Landscape Architect/Tree Officer
Economic Development
Carlisle City Council
Civic Centre
Carlisle   CA3 8QG
Direct Dial: (01228) 817535
Email:  charlesb@xxxxxxxxx.gov.uk


-----Original Message-----
From: Addison, Gilbert [mailto:gilbert.addison@xxxxxxx.co.uk]
Sent: 26 April 2012 13:16
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: BS5837 Breast Height

My money's on a typo 


Regards
 
Gilbert Addison CEnv
 
Consultant on the Natural Environment
Breckland Council
working in partnership with
CAPITA SYMONDS
Tel:  01362 656873
DDI: 01362 656243 Please note there is no asnwerphone on this number
Fax: 01362 696771
Email: gilbert.addison@xxxxxxx.co.uk
Elizabeth House, Walpole Loke, Dereham, Norfolk, NR19 1EE  P Think of the 
environment...please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Heuch [mailto:j.heuch@xxxxxxxxxxx.com]
Sent: 26 April 2012 09:42
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: BS5837 Breast Height

Anyone got a copy of the 1969 regulations?

 

Are the dimensions in the Conservation Area exemptions in the 1999 
regulations just a conversion of what was in the 1969 regulations (Imperial 
to Metric?)

 

BS5837:1980 would have been metric already (by the way BSI are willing to 
sell a copy of this historical document at £136!) so perhaps the 1969 
regulations might indicate the source of 1.5 metres?

 

 Jon Heuch Tel:         +44 (0)1233 713 466 Mob:    +44 (0)7810 610 712

 




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