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RE: Safety Inspections and Ivy/Undergrowth

Subject: RE: Safety Inspections and Ivy/Undergrowth
From: Paul Hawksford
Date: May 17 2012 09:36:13

Bill
 
Going back to my original posting, I was talking about trees in close 
proximity or overhanging highways and high usage areas. I have and always 
will advocate retention of Ivy on trees away from such areas. That said, I'd 
say I've left many thousands of trees with extensive Ivy in low usage areas, 
woodland, copse, agricultural, hedgerows etc, because I appreciate their 
wildlife habitat. I'm looking for a structured balance and I would be failing 
in my duty of care if I were to ignore the potential for tree failure because 
I hadn't included a detailed visual inspection. Ivy in some cases has simply 
hampered my ability to do just that....
 
Cheers...

Paul Hawksford 
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To: uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
Subject: Re: Safety Inspections and Ivy/Undergrowth
From: andersonarb@xxxx.com
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 04:18:27 -0400




Bill, are you really saying that ivy on trees is a rarer and more valuable 
habitat than a veteran or ancient tree? Or have I misunderstood "or vice 
versa"?





-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Muir <PaulMuir@xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Sent: Wed, 16 May 2012 19:53
Subject: RE: Safety Inspections and Ivy/Undergrowth

No of course not: The point I was trying (and failing) to make is that it's 
not hard to find fairly young trees, say Sycamore in secondary woodland, 
covered in Ivy where the opposite is true; the Ivy clearly increases the 
value to biodiversity, even if it's just that the cover is better.... I 
wasn't particularly thinking in terms of veteran trees Paul. I'd hope 
(possibly in vain) that if we were inspecting trees in "hazard" terms that 
any veterans would get ear-marked for further study, and hopefully some 
funding for appropriate management, which might indeed be Ivy treatment.

I have to say a majority of the trees I get to inspect are entirely 
average; I have been flagging up trees with veteran attributes since well 
before the ATF was founded but the difficulty is (generally) getting joe 
and joanna, Artichokes, planners and their ilk, to actually appreciate 
them. 

Sarah's original query gave the impression she was undertaking a large but 
fairly hum-drum survey; I don't think it's appropriate to go round 
severing/killing/removing Ivy for that purpose. Unless it is of course.

Bill.





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