Yes indeed ... But don't take what I said too literally.
Ron Howe
Principal Tree Officer
Mole Valley District Council
Tel. 01306 879 286
Website -www.molevalley.gov.uk
Please take a look at the new 2012 Tree Protection Regulations and
guidance
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningandbuilding/pdf/2127685.
pdf at: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/605/contents/made
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Ross [mailto:trees@xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk]
Sent: 09 August 2012 16:19
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Area TPOs
On 09/08/2012 16:02, Howe, Ron wrote:
... The point is, you can say what you like.
You could say "All native tree species of over 10m in height." I think
the trick is, to think up the line 20 years ahead as to what
applications you might be dealing with and what you might not want.
But it would still only be trees over 10m in height at the time the TPO
was made... which I would have thought would be even more difficult to
assess 20 years down the line than the matter of whether or not a tree
was present (let alone whether it was "mature") 20 years ago.
It seems to me that because Area orders are all about trees as they
exist at the time of the Order being imposed, while they can provide
effective short-term protection for groups of trees, however you phrase
the descriptions they're going to become progressively more unmanageable
(and potentially unenforceable) as they get older.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chatfield, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Chatfield@xxxx.gov.uk]
Sent: 09 August 2012 15:51
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: Area TPOs
No, seriously, do you still make Area orders and say 'mature'? That
particular word is one which has caused me much vexation over the
years.
And looking at your example, I suspect 'understorey' might fall into
the same category although I've never actually had that one.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Howe, Ron [mailto:Ron.Howe@xxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk]
Sent: 09 August 2012 15:35
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: Area TPOs
As Jerry says you may specify the trees as you wish as was the
previous case. But I have taken to specifying the species the TPO is
aimed at so as to exclude the rubbish. For example "the mature Ash,
Oak and Beech in area A1, including Hawthorn, Field Maple and Hornbeam
understory."
However, when making an order in an emergency at a weekend, I might be
more inclined to include "the trees of whatever species." Then, if at
a later date you specify tree species, technically, you are not adding
trees and may then make the changes as a modification only, without a
fuss, and can simply reissue the plan and a revised schedule.
Ron Howe
Principal Tree Officer
Mole Valley District Council
Tel. 01306 879 286
Website -www.molevalley.gov.uk
Please take a look at the new 2012 Tree Protection Regulations and
guidance
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/planningandbuilding/pdf/2127685.
pdf at: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/605/contents/made
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Brewster [mailto:Ian.Brewster@xxxxx.gov.uk]
Sent: 09 August 2012 14:50
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Area TPOs
Sometimes they were and hopefully still are good for emergency
situations for large unknown areas of trees.
However I've just been told by a Planning Officer that according to
the new legislation you now need to list tree species if applying new
AREA TPOs.
Is that right?
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