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RE: No, not worthy for TPO? (The paradox of unabatable nuisance)

Subject: RE: No, not worthy for TPO? (The paradox of unabatable nuisance)
From: Alastair Durkin
Date: Aug 05 2014 08:15:46
Indeed Bill. My old forestry tutor Richard 'Dick' Godefroy was presented with 
an MBE for his services to Forestry in Wales while I was studying in Usk. I 
remember him being very embarrassed about it, despite it being well deserved 
in my opinion.

Alastair

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-----Original Message-----
From: andersonarb@xxxx.com [mailto:andersonarb@xxxx.com]
Sent: 04 August 2014 21:27
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: No, not worthy for TPO? (The paradox of unabatable nuisance)




I would argue that the tree had rights to exist, as a living being, not as 
property of the one, but as a service provider to its landscape and the 
peoples therein, how sad a society we became.





-----Original Message-----
From: Antony Croft <treewisperer@xxxxxxxx.co.uk>
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 19:55
Subject: RE: No, not worthy for TPO? (The paradox of unabatable nuisance)


I would reason that the tree had rights as well Tony, I suspect in here we 
all would, but it hasn't.


As to the charge of nimbyism leading to denudation, I think you're totally 
wrong. Plenty of people spend money on their trees, planting them, 
maintaining them and retaining them, and plenty of people take pleasure in 
watching tree grow, even quite little ones.


I dunno what you do about the door-knocking menaces, and I've had some of my 
comments about them labelled as racist (justifiably, although I pleaded 
ignorance) so I'm not going there again. I do make a point of telling 
potential clients to avoid them, unless they want to see their trees dumped 
in a lay-by, and as far as I can tell, they're rarely cheap.....


If my comment about the guy wanting some sort of reward for his having a fine 
tree was patronising, well sorry. But a TPO is not a reward, by my book it's 
almost a punishment. A tree as a legacy is something else; I think there are 
adopt-a-tree schemes, or memorial tree schemes, but if you really want to die 
and leave something that's going to be some sort of memorial, it probably 
needs to be a forest or woodland, and if you've done a good job of planting 
and establishing it, and then managing it, the RFS might give you some sort 
of award.


I wasn't being facetious about the OBE incidentally, hasn't Ted Green got an 
MBE or something, as has Colin Bashford and Giles Biddle as well. Some 
people's contributions to trees and their maintenance or nurturing are 
recognised.


Bill.





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