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RE: BBC News Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees

Subject: RE: BBC News Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees
From: Alastair Durkin
Date: Oct 09 2014 13:34:20
I think you'll find he was a 'Tree Consultant' Paul ;-) and rightly so. Most 
of the public have no idea what an arboricultural consultant is. Our own 
worst enemies in this industry sometimes.

Alastair 


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Ross [mailto:trees@xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk] 
Sent: 09 October 2014 14:24
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: BBC News Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees

  

On 09/10/2014 13:26, Paul Hawksford wrote:
Ironic really, the public do get taken in by these things, a client 
yesterday, telling me of the 'wonder' cure for diseased trees using 
garlic...... bah!

Humbug it may possibly be, wonder cure it certainly ain't.
But I think we would do Jonathan Cocking a grave disservice by suggesting 
that his promotion of the treatment is just cynical. I have no doubt he has 
every faith in its efficacy, as based on such trials as have been carried out 
(including some shown here http://www.jcaac.com/conquer.htm )

But there he was, an arboricultural consultant on the national news - and (as 
I see Paul has pointed out) the multifarious threats to our trees getting 
some well deserved publicity... can't be bad really.





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From: PJohnston@xxxxxxxx.Gov.UK
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Subject: RE: BBC News Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:42:54 +0000

They were pumping it into an oak, which had AOD.

PJ.

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-----Original Message-----
From: NärNaturen TrädvårdsCenter [mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxx.se]
Sent: 08 October 2014 10:30
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: SV: BBC News Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees


What I would like to know is why they were pumping the garlic potion into 
(as far as I know) a healthy ancient oak tree under the heading 'Ash 
dieback'.

Couldn't they find an ash tree? Hope the oak doesn't suffer just for some 
TV news!
I assume that the people administrating the medicine must be confident 
that it does not harm healthy trees.

Fiona

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Från: Alastair Durkin [mailto:ADurkin@xxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk]
Skickat: den 8 oktober 2014 11:01
Till: UK Tree Care
Ämne: RE: BBC News Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees

I suppose the counter argument is that if the tree is dying then what 
harm, can it do? Antibiotics kill the good bacteria in our stomachs, but 
we still take them because the alternative is worse. I think that if we 
can treat particularly special individual trees then some collateral 
damage may be acceptable. I don't think anyone is suggesting mass 
treatment of ancient woodland are they?

Alastair

-----Original Message-----
From: Dominic Poston, Natural Environment Manager 
[mailto:Dominic.Poston@xxxxxx.gov.uk]
Sent: 08 October 2014 09:56
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: BBC News Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees

For me, that is the main point of concern...

It appears to have a broad range effect and (to my knowledge) little work 
has been undertaken to assess its potential effect on the wider eco-system?

D

Dominic Poston MICFor, F.Arbor.A, CEnv, Dip Arb (RFS), BSc Natural 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alastair Durkin [mailto:ADurkin@xxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk]
Sent: 08 October 2014 09:47
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: BBC News Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees

There is loads of published research about the effectiveness of Allicin as 
an antifungal, antibacterial and antiviral agent, just not much in terms 
of trees. Just google antifungal or antibacterial or antiviral properties 
of Allicin.

Alastair Durkin
Senior Tree Officer
Planning Development Management

Tandridge District Council
The Council Offices
Station Road East
Oxted, Surrey
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adurkin@xxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk
www.tandridge.gov.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Ross [mailto:trees@xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk]
Sent: 08 October 2014 09:29
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: BBC News Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees

On 07/10/2014 22:57, Steve Rowlands wrote:
How right you are, Kim, and someone's making money! Hang around long 
enough and we'll all be soaking our roots in a seaweed soup! 
Y'know....'cos it all seems so right and understandable....so it MUST 
work, eh?
.;)
It's NOT understandable at all...  It's been touted for so many 
problems
- first chestnut bleeding canker, then Cameraria and now Ash dieback:
three diseases caused by three organisms that are not only of different 
species but from three different kingdoms...

Is there any published research?
There's this - http://www.jcaac.com/conquer.htm - which is all well and 
good, but I wonder if there's any independant research on its 
effectiveness.

And then there's emamectin benzoate as a treatment for OPM and Cameraria, 
which Syngenta were pushing at the AA conference, and which does seem to 
be effective.
But at least that's an insecticide and the targets are both insects, which 
has some sort of logic.

But the question is, just how many trees are there to inject?



-----Original Message-----
From: Gifford Tree Service [mailto:kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2014 10:53 a.m.
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: BBC News Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees

Ash dieback: How to fight diseases in trees?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29523609

Remember Dutch Elm disease injections/ Mauget etc? Well its back...

Kind Regards

Kim Gifford
Gifford Tree Service

www.treetesting.com









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