I admit to knowing almost nothing about the ISA and do feel a bit parochial
about that, but I am very encouraged by the performance of the AA right
across the board after some difficult years and see no case for it to be
engulfed by the American organisation, despite the tag 'international'. How
many UK members does the ISA have, and where exactly is the competition
between the two bodies?
-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Jerry Ross
Sent: 07 December 2015 16:57
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: AA & ISA
On 07/12/2015 16:03, Tom Thompson wrote:
Tim
I missed that as well.
My comments were not passing any judgement on either organisation, although
I was frustrated with the length of time it has taken. It is however
important to take the time to do things correctly.
I was just suggesting that there are a lot of AA members on this forum,
significantly more than there are ISA members. So it was a suitable place
to discuss the matters raised.
I'm a member of both but essentially an AA man, keeping up with ISA largely
for their Journal.
The problem (if it is one) is that ISA, although overwhelmingly American in
emphasis and approach, is the leading (well the largest anyway) arb.
body in the wider world, with over 21,000 members. The AA has about
2,000 (numbers courtesy of Wikipedia).
'We' can't compete, simply in terms of the amount of money available to an
organisation with that number of members; but neither would it be sensible
to try as the more bodies there are claiming to represent us, the more
fragmented is our voice.
So the the question is how can the AA & the ISA join forces without the
former being swamped and taken over by an organisation ten times as big?
I don't know but I'm sure that's what ongoing discussions between AA & ISA
are all about - ensuring that while the "the administration of (UK
ISA) membership is managed locally" and effectively by the AA, that the AA
also continues to retain its own character and values.
Discuss
-----Original Message-----
From: "Tim Scott-Ellis" <timanwydhen@xxxxxx.com>
Sent: 07/12/2015 14:14
To: "UK Tree Care" <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: AA & ISA
Dear all,
Once again I eat humble pie. I suppose I should read my emails...
I have been told by several that the message below was in the e-news...
Apologies all round.
Following the disbanding of the ISA UK & Ireland Chapter (UK&I)
earlier this year, the ISA undertook a survey of its membership within
the United Kingdom and Ireland during the summer of 2015. We are
advised that results from the survey indicated that the majority of
those members and credential holders were in favour of the
administration of their membership being managed locally, by another
UK-based arboricultural organisation; the ISA consequently approached the
AA.
The AA is in discussion with the ISA and is considering the benefits
of an alliance to our existing and future membership and the global
networks which could be provided. Please watch out for updates as to
progress regarding this matter and more detailed communications in the
next few weeks. For now, membership for the former Chapter members and
Certifications are being managed by ISA International.
On a related note, the AA has filled the void left by the absence of
the UK&I chapter by taking over the full membership of the European
Arboricultural Council, to ensure that all United Kingdom and Ireland
arboriculturists are represented at this level.
Regards
*Karen Martin*
CEO, The Arboricultural Association
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