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Re: New guy from the Isle of Man

Subject: Re: New guy from the Isle of Man
From: Julian Morris
Date: Dec 24 2015 09:25:52
Welcome to UKTC, it tends to be very english/welsh based, with occasional 
faorys into Scotland by me and Northern Ireland by one person. We now have 
full coverage, apart maybe from Channel Islands. It'll be interesting to see 
if practices and pest are any different on the Isle of Man. 

I'll be looking into that Keytree LT, if the price includes Autocad then 
that's quite a good deal and solution. I mostly use Trimble GPS, Pocket GIS 
and MiniCAD.

Julian A. Morris
Professional Tree Services
0141 XXX XXXX - 0778 XXX XXXX

Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 6:19 PM
From: "Ben Brooker" <>
To: "UK Tree Care" <>
Subject: New guy from the Isle of Man


I’ve just joined the list so thought I’d send a message to see how it works.

My name’s Ben, I studied arb at Merrist Wood form 2000 to 2002 and have 
worked in few different countries doing mainly climber / crew leader / 
estimator type work. I recently finished my ABC level 4 Diploma in Arb with 
Tree Life AC in Syston and have starting providing consultancy services 
along side the usual tree surgery stuff.

I have found there are so many Facebook groups and pages catering to tree 
surgery / arborist discussion (slagging) but nothing for genuine 
arboricultural discussion, so I hope I’ve found the right place here.

As i said, I’ve been working with trees for 15 years but only really 
started in consultancy. My level 4 Arb course was amazing and gave me the 
next level knowledge but offered very little i terms of recording tree data 
and manipulating the data with software as to produce drawings etc. All of 
this I have had to figure out myself, with very little online information 

Because I’m self employed, and the tree surgery work still pays most of the 
bills, I’ve had to build my methods of surveying on a boot string. This is 
how I currently carry out surveys:

I bought a laser measuring tool from eBay for around £30. It is plenty 
accurate enough for measuring crown spread and reasonable at measuring 
height, providing you have a good high spot to bounce the laser off.
I use my iPad to input the data into a free app by GIScloud. The app 
requires that you setup a free account and then allows you to build your 
forms. The data can be collected offline and is then upload to ‘the cloud’ 
when you get to wifi. It is a really robust system and allows you export 
the data as CSV.
I have a Garmin bluetooth GPS / GLANOSS receiver (£67) which links to the 
iPad and allows coordinates to be attached to the tree data but it is not 
accurate, so I either use the topo for tree position or bring out the old 
paper and pen… this is the weak link in my system.
Once i have exported my CSV data I import it into KEYTree LT (£230 per 3 
months or £1500 ish outright). This software includes a stand alone version 
of Autocad and plots all of m crown spreads and RPAs, calculates my RPA 
incursions and categorises my trees by colour as per BS5837. It took a few 
hours, and lots of coffee, to get my head around but it is great as i can 
concentrate on my report instead of my drawing.

I’m guessing that the above may be obvious to many of you, but it is a 
break through for me, given the lack of info available online, and my slim 

Why is there so little info for arb constants? Is it because the industry 
is so young or that we like to keep our methods to ourselves.

Anyway, that’s me, thanks for reading. I will happily take an advice or 
feedback you can give. Or even if you wanted to drop me a message with a 
view to sharing ideas and info in the future, that would be great.

Merry Christmas.


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