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Re: Poplar seed

Subject: Re: Poplar seed
From: Bill Anderson
Date: Sep 05 2017 08:05:23
I can see that going down wonderfully well with the complainant: "What you
need to do love, is get out and get some exercise; lose some weight. Your
allergy isn't an allergy to trees it's an allergy to pies....."
Bill.

PS "love" is a gender-neutral term round here..... Although I can see
that's only one of many politically incorrect sentiments in the above
sentences.

On 4 September 2017 at 18:01, Tom Thompson <admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>
wrote:

I have done some limited research into allergies.  Not scientific, purely
for my own health reasons.

There is some research indicating that allergic reactions are reduced with
better general health and fitness and improved diet.
I cant site any single peer reviewed paper on this, just general reading
around the subject and personal application.

Looking behind the initial question I anticipate that it might be driven by
a need to respond to a resident requesting a tree/trees to be removed.
Good luck explaining that they should take some personal responsibility
rather than expecting someone to spoon feed them a solution to a problem
that they believe is completely out of their control.

There are far too many trees getting removed for poorly justified reasons.


Sincerely Tom

I S Tom Thompson (known as Tom) BSc (Hons) Arb, MSc eFor, MArborA

Principal Arboricultural Consultant
Arbor Cultural Ltd

36 Central Avenue, West Molesey, Surrey, KT8 2QZ

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On 4 September 2017 at 17:26, Wayne Tyson <wt750mv@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

Great responses, especially the latter. Log most of the females, leave
the
males for their beauty? Ban females in the towns and cities?

W

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 5:04 AM, Howe, Ron <Ron.Howe@xxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk>
wrote:

I did a fair old bit of research into this stuff some years back as a
result of an appeal and, people get very confused. On the whole, tree
seeds
are too large or heavy to cause allergy. It is the pollen that is the
main
aggravator. Many tree species also have pollen that is too large and
heavy
also. I suspect that the there may be some confusion over the
Cottonwood
seed. However it may well be the case that the fine hairs making up the
cotton wrapping the seed might cause nasal irritation but again I
suspect
they are too large. It is pretty much the stuff we can't see that leads
to
problems ... the stuff you see dancing in a beam of light breaking
through
your curtains. In the autumn you see plenty of Conifer dust about but
what
is more likely to be the problem then is Aspergillus fungi spores which
abound all over our trees but more often on Conifers due to the
conditions.
I note one of the articles was a little vague as well, quoting all
sorts
of
other problems such as blocking car radiators. That is usually the type
of
annoying nuisance that leads to such misunderstandings. On the whole,
for
something to lead to allergy it needs to be small enough for the
immunoglobulin (IgE) cells to react to as a result of enzymes produced
by
the allergen and that can occur simply as result of the allergen
dissolving
in the fluids linings of your nose or lung. Quite often parasites are
relatively large but they produce chemicals, enzymes.  The fine hairs
of
most cottony seeds are silicone which is more likely to cause
irritation.
Makes sense once it's all explained ...

Ron Howe
Tree Officer (Planning)
Mole Valley District Council
Tel. 01306 XXX XXX


-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info [mailto:uktc-request@lists.
tree-care.info] On Behalf Of will ross
Sent: 21 August 2017 12:29
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: Poplar seed

Edmund,
                 Try these  , I managed to find a few links
http://www.scidev.net/south-asia/forestry/news/female-
poplars-linked-to-allergies.html

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5475931_symptoms-allergies-cottonwood.html

Regards

Will
-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info [mailto:uktc-request@lists.
tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Edmund Hopkins
Sent: 21 August 2017 11:27
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Poplar seed

Is anyone aware of a medical condition or conditions associated with
the
'cotton wool' produced by (some) Poplars in the early summer? I'm sorry
to
use the term 'cotton wool' but the technical term escapes me.

Regards,

Edmund Hopkins
Tree Officer
Heritage and Urban Design
City Planning
0115 XXXXXXX

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