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M6 widening

Subject: M6 widening
From: David Bailey
Date: Oct 10 2017 11:46:50
As most of you know, the M6 is being widened from Junction 16 to 19 through 
Staffordshire and Cheshire.

I was a passenger in a car going through it yesterday and was able to have a 
gander at what was actually going on.

Some of the excavations to create this new lane (which no-one will use 
because they think it is below them to drive on the inside lane of a 4 lane 
motorway) are to within 1 to 2 metres of some quite large trees, at a point 
where I would say that structural stability is at risk. 

To be fair, all of the trees are your usual motorway-side species of perhaps 
no more than 40 years age, but I am amazed that such a large project has not 
had, or has not listened to the input of an arboriculturist. Obviously these 
trees needed removing before the main work started, but you get the 
impression that trees have not been considered at all throughout the whole 
site, particularly on the south-bound carriageway.

I recon a few of the trees would reach the current carriageway which, you 
would of thought, might have sparked some sort of interest from anyone with a 
shred of common sense.

Cheers

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Howe, Ron
Sent: 10 October 2017 12:30
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: More than 8 weeks

I quite often get customers moaning that they have been waiting 2 months for 
their application to be determined, only to find when I check for the 
application, that that the contractor hasn't yet done it or has only just put 
in, and, that the contractor has told the customer that it's the Council's 
fault because it takes 8 weeks. The contractor then pleads for a quick 
response. We oblige where possible. 

As I'm having a bad day; If people fail to appreciate our hard work, then the 
app' can take 7 weeks and 30 days to issue! ... ... So, what’s a reasonable 
amount of time for a contractor to process an application for a customer? If 
you want to beat us with a stick, we have bigger ones! Especially as I can 
phone the customer and tell them that we have not received and application!

Ron Howe
Tree Officer (Planning)
Mole Valley District Council
Tel. 01306 XXX XXX

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of "Eddie Butler"
Sent: 09 October 2017 11:14
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: More than 8 weeks

Hi Mark
Agreed- and I have done just that several times.
I should know that of course as I'm in the trade, but the wording of the 
letter from this L.A. would suggest to a member of the public that the L.A.
has the unilateral discretion to extend the determination time beyond 8 weeks 
if it deems it necessary.
A bit naughty, no?

Eddie

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 4:58 PM
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: More than 8 weeks

Eddie - your option after 8 weeks - if no extension period has been agreed - 
is to appeal on the grounds of non-determination.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of "Eddie Butler"
Sent: 13 March 2017 14:28
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: More than 8 weeks

One of my local Authorities is including the following statement contained 
within the acknowledgement letter sent back to the applicant on receipt of a 
1App (TPO).

 

'The statutory period within which decisions are issued, is eight weeks.
However, applications to carry out works to trees on neighbouring properties, 
or where the proposed work is likely to attract considerable public interest 
will take longer.  This is because we will need to consult with interested 
parties.'

 

It is followed by a set determination date (which is exactly 8 weeks after 
the Application date) and the usual info regarding PINS appeal process etc.

 

I was not aware that an application could take longer than 8 weeks to 
determine unless a time extension was agreed by both L.A. and Applicant.

Rather than do my own diligent research, I thought I'd feed it to the 
collective for usual the rigorous examination.

 

Regards,

Eddie Butler



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