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RE: M6 widening

Subject: RE: M6 widening
From: David Bailey
Date: Oct 12 2017 13:16:10
To be fair,

I've now had an answer back from Adam Morrall, someone with an unfathomable 
job title, of Carillion Kier who are doing the work.

He tells me not to worry and that they have qualified tree professionals and 
experienced engineers excavating close to trees. He also asked where in 
particular I had concerns and that he would pass on comments to the 
appropriate department.

So good on them for replying in a timely fashion, but to be quite honest, 
tree consideration on this whole project is an omnishambles. 

It would be nice to see the relevant LPAs go total gangster on these people 
because looking at their justification, from the offset, there doesn't seem 
to have been any consideration of the trees. 

I know there are no massively decent trees here and there are only a few 
trees that have had serious amounts of root severance, but this is dangerous 
next to one of the busiest roads in Europe and talk about advertising rubbish 
tree protection on a massively visible infrastructure project in this day and 
age.

Now they want me to tell them where the problems are! 

Pro bono Dave! 


-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Jerry Ross
Sent: 12 October 2017 07:26
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: M6 widening

Try
Jim.OSullivan@xxxxxxxxx.gsi.gov.uk
He's the CEO.
(located at  https://www.ceoemail.com/s.php?id=ceo-12027 )



On 11/10/2017 20:47, David Bailey wrote:
I sent a message to 'info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk' which was the only e-mail 
I could find on their web site.

It is such a general e-mail address, I'd be surprised if it got anywhere 
useful!

Cheers

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of kevin 
greenstreet
Sent: 11 October 2017 20:07
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: M6 widening

Anybody have a contact?
Thanks in advance folks

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Oct 2017, at 19:30, elsteadbysea <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> wrote:

Highways England


Kind regards
Phillip Ellis
Sent from Samsung tablet.
-------- Original message --------From: kevin greenstreet 
<kevingreenstreet@xxxxxxxx.co.uk> Date: 11/10/2017  19:25  (GMT+00:00) To: 
UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> Subject: Re: M6 widening Who is 
responsible for the M6 project just out of interest?

Sent from my iPhone

On 10 Oct 2017, at 12:46, David Bailey <oldoaktree@xxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:

As most of you know, the M6 is being widened from Junction 16 to 19 
through Staffordshire and Cheshire.

I was a passenger in a car going through it yesterday and was able to 
have a gander at what was actually going on.

Some of the excavations to create this new lane (which no-one will use 
because they think it is below them to drive on the inside lane of a 4 
lane motorway) are to within 1 to 2 metres of some quite large trees, at 
a point where I would say that structural stability is at risk.

To be fair, all of the trees are your usual motorway-side species of 
perhaps no more than 40 years age, but I am amazed that such a large 
project has not had, or has not listened to the input of an 
arboriculturist. Obviously these trees needed removing before the main 
work started, but you get the impression that trees have not been 
considered at all throughout the whole site, particularly on the 
south-bound carriageway.

I recon a few of the trees would reach the current carriageway which, you 
would of thought, might have sparked some sort of interest from anyone 
with a shred of common sense.

Cheers

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Howe, Ron
Sent: 10 October 2017 12:30
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: More than 8 weeks

I quite often get customers moaning that they have been waiting 2 months 
for their application to be determined, only to find when I check for the 
application, that that the contractor hasn't yet done it or has only just 
put in, and, that the contractor has told the customer that it's the 
Council's fault because it takes 8 weeks. The contractor then pleads for 
a quick response. We oblige where possible.

As I'm having a bad day; If people fail to appreciate our hard work, then 
the app' can take 7 weeks and 30 days to issue! ... ... So, what’s a 
reasonable amount of time for a contractor to process an application for 
a customer? If you want to beat us with a stick, we have bigger ones! 
Especially as I can phone the customer and tell them that we have not 
received and application!

Ron Howe
Tree Officer (Planning)
Mole Valley District Council
Tel. 01306 XXX XXX

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of "Eddie Butler"
Sent: 09 October 2017 11:14
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: More than 8 weeks

Hi Mark
Agreed- and I have done just that several times.
I should know that of course as I'm in the trade, but the wording of the 
letter from this L.A. would suggest to a member of the public that the 
L.A.
has the unilateral discretion to extend the determination time beyond 8 
weeks if it deems it necessary.
A bit naughty, no?

Eddie

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 4:58 PM
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: More than 8 weeks

Eddie - your option after 8 weeks - if no extension period has been 
agreed - is to appeal on the grounds of non-determination.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of "Eddie Butler"
Sent: 13 March 2017 14:28
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: More than 8 weeks

One of my local Authorities is including the following statement 
contained within the acknowledgement letter sent back to the applicant on 
receipt of a 1App (TPO).



'The statutory period within which decisions are issued, is eight weeks.
However, applications to carry out works to trees on neighbouring 
properties, or where the proposed work is likely to attract considerable 
public interest will take longer.  This is because we will need to 
consult with interested parties.'



It is followed by a set determination date (which is exactly 8 weeks 
after the Application date) and the usual info regarding PINS appeal 
process etc.



I was not aware that an application could take longer than 8 weeks to 
determine unless a time extension was agreed by both L.A. and Applicant.

Rather than do my own diligent research, I thought I'd feed it to the 
collective for usual the rigorous examination.



Regards,

Eddie Butler



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