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RE: Another big Beech to care for.

Subject: RE: Another big Beech to care for.
From: Jim Quaife
Date: Nov 13 2017 15:01:36
Just add a small point to Alastair's "fill-ups" of mulch, a few months ago 
Tony Kirkham was showing the AARCs around Kew and surprised us all by saying 
that just simply topping up mulch was something he no longer indulged in. The 
reason is that the existing mulch by weathering and footfall actually formed 
a barrier and new mulch on top was of significantly reduced effectiveness.
This may be a symptom which affects Kew given the number of visitors, but 
actually the proportion of people who do actually trample on mulch is 
comparatively low.  For what it is worth, on the one hand I'm in no position 
to contest Tony's knowledge and experience, but on the other it seems to me 
that if existing mulch has "hardened off" then it should be raked or 
otherwise disturbed so that any "layer" can be broken and the new mulch 
integrated. 
It does depend upon whether mulching is a restorative measure over the short 
term, or a longer term measure.  That would depend upon the site, but if as 
you say the foliage indicates that the tree is OK, that may be a good sign in 
terms of the former, but again you don't mention the period over which 
trafficking over the root system occurred or how long ago it was reduced by 
the diversion.  As with all things to do with trees, it is all down to 
justification in site-specific circumstances, but in general I reckon that 
mulching is a "good thing".
Soil type??
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Charlie Ashworth
Sent: 13 November 2017 14:07
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Another big Beech to care for.

Thanks Alistair & Edmund.  I didn’t give enough info!

The compaction is less than a third of the actual rooting area but is quite 
severe (construction traffic for rebuilding collapsed listed building etc) 
and the fungal bodies sit against the buttresses of the roots from the 
compacted area. 

The traffic will continue to some extent (access for three workers houses) so 
I need to do something to sort the issue out and they are going to resurface 
anyway so it needs to be done with my input rather than just that of the 
builders who caused the damage.

I have been waiting a wee while, and whilst doing so I advised the owners to 
reroute the heavy traffic and consider putting the tree in my care.  The 
crown isn’t showing any signs, no die back at present.  But the fungal 
infection is evident for the second year (sadly they keep calling me in after 
they’re past their best).  I think the owners hoped it would go away, but it 
hasn’t, so they’re now inclined to let me do my best for the tree.

The direct damage to the exposed roots makes me inclined to do more rather 
than less.  I feel if we can improve the situation it would give these roots 
a chance of recovery.

Your thoughts are much appreciated
Charlie


On 13 Nov 2017, at 13:47, Edmund Hopkins 
<Edmund.Hopkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk> wrote:

Much will depend on the extent and severity of the compaction, how long the 
trafficking has been underway, and how much of the actual (rather than the 
radial formula) root area has been compromised. I'd just urge caution 
before embarking upon a series of remedial measures and investigations. 
"Wait and see", maybe? As for retrenchment pruning, you might follow the 
dieback with the saw, but the dieback itself can tell a story.

Edmund

Edmund Hopkins
Tree Officer
Heritage and Urban Design
City Planning
0115 XXXXXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Charlie 
Ashworth
Sent: 13 November 2017 13:30
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Another big Beech to care for.

Hello All,

I have a client with another very large Beech with a partially compacted 
rooting area (caused by excessive traffic for the type of surface, some 
surface root damage and some fungal fruiting bodies of possibly honey 
fungus (rotted down so difficult to tell).  Stem is sound, crown is 
stunningly perfect. Owners are aware of risks and would like to maintain 
tree for as long as possible.

Ideally I’d like to arrange decompaction/aeration, root investigation, 
mulching, create a new driveway surface (including cellular system and 
permeable surface) and create an aesthetically pleasing barrier to stop 
traffic cutting the corner again and causing direct damage to the exposed 
roots.  Majority of traffic has already been diverted, but some access to 
the rear of the property is still required (I did suggest moving it all but 
that was a step too far).

In the long term I have warned that systematic retrenchment may be required 
as well as the above, though I am loathe to do this to a beech and such a 
fine specimen.

I ask for any sources of information, guidance, or research on similar 
cases.  Also, of any contacts for advice or the decompaction, aeration and 
root investigation that cover the north west of England.

And of course if there is something that I may not have mentioned as a 
course of action you feel would be pertinent in saving this ‘big Ol’ girl’ 
from past poor management, please do let me know.


Best Wishes
Charlie




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