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RE: Another big Beech to care for.

Subject: RE: Another big Beech to care for.
From: Ben Maxted
Date: Nov 13 2017 16:41:15
Depends how many get squashed by passing traffic Gareth?
Atb
Ben

On 13 Nov 2017 4:33 pm, "Hare, Gareth" <Gareth.Hare@xxxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk>
wrote:

Fair enough Ben, but what's the solution and can you tell what 9 across is
while you're at it :-) ?

On a serious note, don't earthworms have a bulk density 'ceiling'?

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From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info [mailto:uktc-request@lists.
tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Ben Maxted
Sent: 13 November 2017 15:48
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: Another big Beech to care for.

Scatter earthworms liberally?
Ben


On 13 Nov 2017 3:01 pm, "Jim Quaife" <jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk> wrote:

Just add a small point to Alastair's "fill-ups" of mulch, a few months
ago Tony Kirkham was showing the AARCs around Kew and surprised us all
by saying that just simply topping up mulch was something he no longer
indulged in. The reason is that the existing mulch by weathering and
footfall actually formed a barrier and new mulch on top was of
significantly reduced effectiveness.
This may be a symptom which affects Kew given the number of visitors,
but actually the proportion of people who do actually trample on mulch
is comparatively low.  For what it is worth, on the one hand I'm in no
position to contest Tony's knowledge and experience, but on the other
it seems to me that if existing mulch has "hardened off" then it
should be raked or otherwise disturbed so that any "layer" can be
broken and the new mulch integrated.
It does depend upon whether mulching is a restorative measure over the
short term, or a longer term measure.  That would depend upon the
site, but if as you say the foliage indicates that the tree is OK,
that may be a good sign in terms of the former, but again you don't
mention the period over which trafficking over the root system
occurred or how long ago it was reduced by the diversion.  As with all
things to do with trees, it is all down to justification in
site-specific circumstances, but in general I reckon that mulching is a
"good thing".
Soil type??
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info [mailto:uktc-request@lists.
tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Charlie Ashworth
Sent: 13 November 2017 14:07
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Another big Beech to care for.

Thanks Alistair & Edmund.  I didn’t give enough info!

The compaction is less than a third of the actual rooting area but is
quite severe (construction traffic for rebuilding collapsed listed
building
etc) and the fungal bodies sit against the buttresses of the roots
from the compacted area.

The traffic will continue to some extent (access for three workers
houses) so I need to do something to sort the issue out and they are
going to resurface anyway so it needs to be done with my input rather
than just that of the builders who caused the damage.

I have been waiting a wee while, and whilst doing so I advised the
owners to reroute the heavy traffic and consider putting the tree in
my care.  The crown isn’t showing any signs, no die back at present.
But the fungal infection is evident for the second year (sadly they
keep calling me in after they’re past their best).  I think the owners
hoped it would go away, but it hasn’t, so they’re now inclined to let me
do my best for the tree.

The direct damage to the exposed roots makes me inclined to do more
rather than less.  I feel if we can improve the situation it would
give these roots a chance of recovery.

Your thoughts are much appreciated
Charlie


On 13 Nov 2017, at 13:47, Edmund Hopkins <Edmund.Hopkins@
nottinghamcity.gov.uk> wrote:

Much will depend on the extent and severity of the compaction, how
long
the trafficking has been underway, and how much of the actual (rather
than the radial formula) root area has been compromised. I'd just urge
caution before embarking upon a series of remedial measures and
investigations.
"Wait and see", maybe? As for retrenchment pruning, you might follow
the dieback with the saw, but the dieback itself can tell a story.

Edmund

Edmund Hopkins
Tree Officer
Heritage and Urban Design
City Planning
0115 XXXXXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Charlie
Ashworth
Sent: 13 November 2017 13:30
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Another big Beech to care for.

Hello All,

I have a client with another very large Beech with a partially
compacted
rooting area (caused by excessive traffic for the type of surface,
some surface root damage and some fungal fruiting bodies of possibly
honey fungus (rotted down so difficult to tell).  Stem is sound, crown
is stunningly perfect. Owners are aware of risks and would like to
maintain tree for as long as possible.

Ideally I’d like to arrange decompaction/aeration, root
investigation,
mulching, create a new driveway surface (including cellular system and
permeable surface) and create an aesthetically pleasing barrier to
stop traffic cutting the corner again and causing direct damage to the
exposed roots.  Majority of traffic has already been diverted, but
some access to the rear of the property is still required (I did
suggest moving it all but that was a step too far).

In the long term I have warned that systematic retrenchment may be
required as well as the above, though I am loathe to do this to a
beech and such a fine specimen.

I ask for any sources of information, guidance, or research on
similar
cases.  Also, of any contacts for advice or the decompaction, aeration
and root investigation that cover the north west of England.

And of course if there is something that I may not have mentioned as
a
course of action you feel would be pertinent in saving this ‘big Ol’
girl’
from past poor management, please do let me know.


Best Wishes
Charlie




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