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Re: Woodland Heritage Save Our Oak

Subject: Re: Woodland Heritage Save Our Oak
From: Wayne Tyson
Date: Dec 21 2017 03:23:30
I do not mind being contacted directly regarding matters of no interest to
the Forum at large, but if the discussion is relevant to its goals and
subject matter, I am reluctant to be secretive about it. I believe that
most matters that are relevant can be adequately policed with the delete
key, which I commonly employ with great vigor. I particularly insist that
those who are moved to rudeness not hide their behavior by raving off-list;
when such folk do vent directly, however, I take no action. You, Dom, or
anyone else, are welcome to use my email address.

For example, I have noted with great interest the recent postings about the
loss of oaks to disease and have wondered if there have been any
observations of patterns related to things like density, recruitment, and
understory composition; I presume that such would be of interest to the
Forum, whereas technical discussion about microbiomes might or might not
be. For now, I will probably continue to use my judgment about my posts,
and presume that the moderator will inform me of any bad behavior.

Wayne

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Dom Gane <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> wrote:

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I was dangling off the rear of two strokes at a similar age, I hope I
have a few years left in me yet, time will tell. I'd like to continue
this discussion but I'm not sure the whole of uktc will appreciate us
clogging their inboxes. If you are agreeable how may I contact you?
On 21 Dec 2017 01:01, Wayne Tyson <wt750mv@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

  I appreciate everyone's insight, in and out of "the industry."

  I've been retired for almost 18 years. I started debarking trees and
  pulling stumps before I was ten, have worked in trees, plant nursery,
  landscaping, forestry, park construction inspection, park management,
  park
  planning, and ecosystem restoration--just to hit the high spots, not
  counting the military all my life.

  I continue to study. The project to which I referred was discussed in
  an
  article in the January 1979 issue of *Landscape Architecture. *I am
  currently working on a project to restore the Torrey pines woodland
  ecosystem to a ten acre site on the campus of Scripps Institution of
  Oceanography (University of California San Diego). We will be using
  inoculum from the indigenous soil microbiome in this work. The site
  work is
  to be completed in late 2018. The idea is to restore the entire
  complex of
  indigenous species from bacteria to trees. I had a consulting
  business from
  1979 to 2000, and had done some consulting work in the late 1960's
  following my military service.

  "Fluxes" are always with us; human activity has long perturbed
  ecosystems,
  especially since the displacement of social organizations with
  culture, at
  an accelerating pace, which seems to be nearing terminal velocity. We
  may
  learn in time, or we may not, but optimism is the only option.

  Wayne

  On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Dom Gane <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
  wrote:

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  > Thank you Wayne. I have raised such ideas here in the past, to a
  lukewarm
  > reception. It's refreshing to come across someone in the industry
  who has
  > some insight.
  > I suspect the flux we witness is linked closely to anthropogenic
  drivers
  > and what many view as the 6th extinction event.
  > What projects were you involved in?
  >
  > On 20 Dec 2017 22:20, Wayne Tyson <wt750mv@xxxxxx.com> wrote:
  >
  > I believe you are right. In fact, I suspect (and supporting
  evidence
  > is
  > growing) that soil microbiomes are the essential component in
  > ecosystem
  > health, including, of course, mycorrhizal fungi. I suspect that
  > microbiomes
  > are in a constant state of flux, reflecting the dynamic web of
  life,
  > from
  > individual organisms to all ecosystems large and small.
  >
  > This was the key concept behind ecosystem restoration which I first
  > worked
  > out in a very crude (but effective) way in the late '60's and
  applied
  > to my
  > first truly successful (after at least fifteen years of failures)
  > large-scale ecosystem restoration project in 1972. As I continued
  to
  > work
  > over the years, I was forced (seduced) to consider smaller and
  > smaller
  > organisms and their interdependence with other organisms.
  >
  > So you can see that I was and am truly interested in elaboration on
  > your
  > point of trophic "cascades."
  >
  > Wayne
  >
  > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Dom Gane
  <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
  > wrote:
  >
  > > [Text converted from HTML]
  > > Trophic. I'm not being obscure. I think that soil the
  communities,
  > likely
  > > mycorrhizal fungi, have changed due to climate change and
  > atmospheric
  > > deposition, possibly eutrophication. I think, and there is good
  > evidence
  > > that multitrophic interactions occur between mycs and insect
  > herbivores.
  > > I have data which indicates that S. bovinus (a mycorrhizal fungi)
  > > inhibits A. mellea.
  > >
  > >
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