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RE: RE: VALID Tree Risk-Benefit Management Plan

Subject: RE: RE: VALID Tree Risk-Benefit Management Plan
From: Elton Watson
Date: Dec 22 2017 12:26:51
It comes down to what is reasonably practicable and in the context of the 
generally, extremely low risk of harm from falling trees and branches. Surely 
the basis for any risk assessment system or inspection regime needs to start 
from this point?

I think this debate has done the rounds a few times over the years and 
certainly when QTRA evolved, I think the NTSG & HSE guidance are most 
relevant in acknowledging  this reality.


Elton Watson  MICFor

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-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Philip Wilson
Sent: 22 December 2017 12:06
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: RE: VALID Tree Risk-Benefit Management Plan

David,
Julian expressed concern that tree risk could not be adequately evaluated 
from a walk-by inspection. You responded that it's a matter of degree and 
expediency, and went on to be rather dismissive of the concern.

Do we in fact have confidence that 'budgetary constraints' would be an 
acceptable defence if a tree inspected in a walk-by caused harm (if arising 
from a defect only visible from the unseen side of the tree)?
Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 21 December 2017 06:52
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: RE: VALID Tree Risk-Benefit Management Plan

Hi Julian

Though I appreciate you taking the time to make your comments.  
Unfortunately, as I started to go through them point by point, and began to 
work on a reply, it dawned on me that right from the first sentence there's 
almost nothing you've written with which I agree.  On some points you're 
demonstrably wrong.  And even on the few marginal ones, I struggle to see the 
value to either of us, or the forum, of trying to pursue this.  In my draft 
to date reply I'm contesting almost every line you've typed and it's just 
going to end up with one of the those threads where I quote you 10 times and 
reply, and everyone will lose the will to live.  Sorry.

Cheers

Acer ventura




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