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Re: Further Sheffield news; Police review.

Subject: Re: Further Sheffield news; Police review.
From: Bill Anderson
Date: Jun 30 2018 14:09:33
Hi Phillip. What are the stats for newly planted street trees dying?
(Nationwide I mean) I imagine they're depressing. Even without
the unusually clement weather. Amey are currently trying to water what
they've planted but I suspect the unusually dry spell will have beaten
them. To be fair I think some of the protestors have started to realise
that the best thing they can do for the cause of trees is to get out and
water some newly planted ones. But it might be that some protestors think
their cause is better served by seeing new trees die

Rod; according to some reports in the press a couple of weeks ago Sheffield
aren't the biggest removers of trees (see
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5801627/Great-tree-massacre-Councils-cut-110-000-trees-desperate-bid-save-money.html
Sorry for the daily mail link but it was the first one to come up from a
quick google.) But it seems the Sheffield case has generated the most
protest. It could be just that Sheffield's protestors got the social media
going best (or worst depending how you look at it) I'm pretty well
convinced it wouldn't have got going at all had it not been for book-face.

As to the Police involvement, I really don't know what else you're supposed
to do. Some of the protestors deliberately put themselves in harm's way.
What's an innocent chap supposed to do when some ill-informed protestor
tries to stop him working? And apparently Sheffield Council have just had
to pay Amey an extra £700k as a result of them being delayed..... Don't
suppose much of that £700k will find it's way to the tree management side
of things.

Bill.

On 29 June 2018 at 18:59, "Rod Leslie" <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> wrote:

As you say, what a surprise.

Obviously, noone asked the awkward question - as to whether the police
should have told Amey & the Council to go away and sort themselves out
before they would get seriously involved. Bluntly, if the police are needed
for anything beyond traffic control you as a tree worker have got it wrong,
and whatever the rights and wrongs of the arboriculture, Amey, the Council
and the SYP will be taught as an exemplar of just how wrong you can get it
for years to come.

Roderick Leslie

-----Original Message----- From: elsteadbysea@xxxxxxxxxxx.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 4:38 PM
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: Further Sheffield news; Police review.


From what I saw in Sheffield last week the strength of feeling is going to
see the policing issues continue.
One observation is that replacement trees I saw are dying!

Phillip


-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
On Behalf Of Bill Anderson
Sent: 29 June 2018 15:43
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Further Sheffield news; Police review.

In case anyone's still interested:

http://www.southyorkshire-pcc.gov.uk/News-and-Events/News/20
18/June/Independent-Report-Makes-Recommendations-into-Polici
ng-of-Tree-Protests-in-Sheffield.aspx

The Police did nothing wrong it seems, and their response wasn't unfair or
disproportionate. Who'd have guessed?

Bill.



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