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Re: Tree professionalism WAS London tree WAS Tree hazard potential assessment study BREAKS Close calls

Subject: Re: Tree professionalism WAS London tree WAS Tree hazard potential assessment study BREAKS Close calls
From: Wayne Tyson
Date: Jul 09 2018 02:40:19
My personal definition of a professional is a person who puts the work and
the interests of others (the public, clients) first. There is another kind
of "professional," of course--one who puts the buck ($) and (him/her) self
first followed by those who own his/her soul. There is a alternative and
more honest term for the latter, but of course I shall not cite it due to
the rules of politesse.

You are, I believe, quite right when you emphasize the complex nature of
organisms such as trees (and how they interact with their environment). "We
shape our trees, and afterwards they shape us." (Apologies to Winston
Churchill) We don't even understand the simplest of organisms yet, despite
being able to crack their genetic codes.

I must say, however, having grown up in the farming, ranching, gardening,
forestry, tree surgery, landscape architecture, plant nursery, park
construction inspection, park design, park management, and ecosystem
restoration fields over more than seven decades, that it is my opinion that
much of good practice and educational standards have, while there have been
technological "improvements," declined rather than improved, especially in
the realm of tree husbandry.

Wayne

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Michael Richardson <
richardsontreecare@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

I think one of the huge issues is that the terms professional and
professionalism are not well understood and organizations such as ISA has
co-opted the terms and lead hands-on tradesman (working tree people) to
believe there limited skill set is enough to consult etc.  Professional
refers to a person or job that requires lots of specialized education and
professionalism to the traits needed.  Tree workers do not have this, nor
do most arborists, consulting arborists etc.

When you consider that a tree (an autotroph) is in many ways more
complicated compared with a human (hetertroph) surely an understanding of
trees, biology, physiology, mycology, physics, and mechanics is needed to
have any hope of being a good tree risk assessor.  Further this knowledge,
gathered through extensive study, must be supplemented with experience.

Arborists generally don't know that they don't know!

Michael Richardson B.Sc.F., BCMA
Ontario MTCU Qualified Arborist
Richardson Tree Care
Richardsontreecare.ca
613-475-2877
800-769-9183

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On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Wayne Tyson <wt750mv@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

 Thank you, Michael, for the highly *responsive* reply to my enquiry!
Unfortunately the tommyrot of which you speak is widespread here in the
US
too.

When I was in the consulting business and working for various agencies,
it
was my practice to retain people who knew what I didn't know--in fact, I
would even call in people who were better than I even when I knew quite a
bit about a particular subject. When I took a course in Business Law, the
professor said that he was going to teach us how to know when we needed a
lawyer and when we didn't. It would seem to me that the arborist
profession
would enhance its reputation if it drew the crucial distinctions between
knowledge and presumption, practice and sound theory (as synthesized
knowledge) in action (educated observation), and pat answers vs enquiry.
*Understanding* has no substitute; still it is always incomplete. I
question my own assumptions before questioning those of others, but
questioning a person who truly understands is always welcome.

Thank you also, for the recommended references. However, if I buy one
more
book, my wife may divorce me for raiding our retirement fund again. And,
my
cup runneth over. I may well run the risk in this case, however.

Wayne

PS: While I can barely spel mycologist, I hope I know when I need one.
If I
didn't have radar, I might resort to a mallet, followed by an increment
borer, or approved substitute. If radar was available, that would be
best.
But I see this case as a shot across the bow--they should call you in
before another one of those old, old trees kills someone. Oh yes, I
almost
forgot--would you and the crew care to discuss the common misconceptions
found in arborist's reports such as "The tree was perfectly healthy but
was
rotten inside." And "The wind (or God, or softened soil, or the uptake of
water adding weight, ad nauseam) *caused* the tree to fall?



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