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Re: Tree hazard potential assessment study USA Arborists advice

Subject: Re: Tree hazard potential assessment study USA Arborists advice
From: Wayne Tyson
Date: Feb 28 2019 17:02:06
To clarify, the purpose of sharing the media-quoted advice of US arborists
is to obtain the unvarnished *opinions* and comments of tree professionals
about that advice.

I appreciate all responses.

Wayne

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 8:44 AM Jim Quaife <jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>
wrote:

Having done the ASCA Academy I can confirm that it is definitely
consultancy orientated and deals with technical aspects of report writing
and evidence preparation as well as the "art" of consultancy. One has to
submit a report on a given scenario before starting the residential
course.  As I recall there are some 500 RCAs (or probably more now).
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info [mailto:
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Philip van Wassenaer
Sent: 28 February 2019 16:13
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: Tree hazard potential assessment study USA Arborists advice

If ASCA RCA is not the standard for consulting arborists in NA, then what
is? You and I have often discussed and acknowledged that ISA CA is a
minimum standard and it does not actually relate to consulting at all.

Just wondering.

Cheers,


Philip van Wassenaer, B.SC., MFC
Principal Consultant
Urban Forest Innovations Inc.
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
www.urbanforestinnovations.com



-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info [mailto:
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Michael Richardson
Sent: February-28-19 9:41 AM
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Tree hazard potential assessment study USA Arborists advice

Yes ASCA but ASCA RCA is in no way the standard for consulting arborists.
I believe that there are something like 300 RCAs currently active vs. tens
of thousands of ISA CAs.

Michael Richardson B.Sc.F., BCMA
Ontario MTCU Qualified Arborist
Richardson Tree Care
Richardsontreecare.ca
613-475-2877
800-769-9183

  <http://www.richardsontreecare.ca/images/Tree_Doc_logo_email.png>



On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 6:37 AM Jim Quaife <jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>
wrote:

Don't forget ASCA if you are interested in consultancy.
If providing a professional opinion about a tree where any element of
or type of risk is involved (not just safety) then PI insurance is
obligatory.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info [mailto:
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Michael Richardson
Sent: 28 February 2019 09:44
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Tree hazard potential assessment study USA Arborists
advice

Wayne, I have no idea what you are continually asking about.  If you
wish to understand the state of the industry you need to understand
what the industry standards are.  In North America the standard for
training and knowledge is set by the ISA Certified Arborist
designation.  Get the study guide and find out what the ISA expects a
person to know and what the passing of the exam represents.

From ISA " ISA Certification is a voluntary program that tests and
certifies your achievement of a professional level of knowledge and
skill in the field of arboriculture. When you become an ISA Certified
Arborist®, you are recognized by your peers and the public as a tree
care professional who has attained a generally-accepted level of
knowledge in areas such as tree biology, diagnosis, maintenance
practices, safety, and other subject and practice areas within the
tree care profession as identified through periodic job task analyses.
Hiring a Certified Arborist provides tree owners and government
decision makers the opportunity to become better informed about proper
tree care and their selection of services based on the expertise
represented by your credential."

Michael Richardson B.Sc.F., BCMA
Ontario MTCU Qualified Arborist
Richardson Tree Care
Richardsontreecare.ca
613-475-2877
800-769-9183

  <http://www.richardsontreecare.ca/images/Tree_Doc_logo_email.png>



On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:53 AM Jim Quaife <jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>
wrote:

You'd be very busy with that stratagem in Manchester!
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info [mailto:
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Wayne Tyson
Sent: 27 February 2019 23:50
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Tree hazard potential assessment study USA Arborists
advice

How about this one:

All the rain from this previous week could be wreaking havoc on your
trees.

Arborists say too much rain can essentially bring down trees.

_______ with ______ ____ Tree Service in ______ says the saturated
ground prevents the necessary oxygen from getting into the soil.

He suggests after a big rain to rake the debris below a tree, have
it professionally fertilized, and trim any unhealthy limbs.

____ expects he'll get calls for those services after Tuesday’s
sunny
day.

“We normally get those calls regardless especially when you have the
pretty days,” ____ said. “People get outside and actually get the
chance to look up and see the broken limbs. That's usually the calls
we get, then we go out and find the other problems.”

All this rain can set the groundwork for your tree to fall over once
strong spring storms come.


Thanks for your comments,

Wayne

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 1:05 AM Bill Anderson <
anderson.arb.original@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

Doesn't seem too controversial Wayne. Keep your eyes open and seek
further advice. In this country I'd anticipate some advice about
from whom Joe and Joanna Public should be taking advice but
otherwise no
grievances.
Bill.

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 21:47, Wayne Tyson <wt750mv@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

I'll appreciate your comments on this redacted (for privacy)
copy of a recent news item in which certified arborists in the
USA were
quoted.
What
different answers might you give and which would be the same?

". . . chances are you have come across trees and limbs that
have either broken off or uprooted from the ground due to the
recent heavy wind,
rain,
and snow that has plagued the Northstate from the winter weather.

Prior to the snow storm a few weeks ago, thousands of tree limbs
have affected the roadway and has been cleared off however, tree
limbs can potentially fall anytime.  . . . tree cutting service
company called
_____
Tree Expert were out on Monday answering to call services.
______, owner
of
____ tree Expert said there are telling signs that indicated a
tree limb
or
tree may fall.

"Look for any of the ground disturbed or look at the base of the
trees to see if it's been, you know, if there's any crack or
split in it. And if
so,
they should have it dealt with quickly," ______ said.

"Supervising Arborist ______ explained the kind of trees to
watch out for have limbs that are prone to breaking off or
uprooting.

"With the wind blowing, the rain, trees are going to uproot
because that have their leaves, Live Oaks, so I'd be looking at
the Live Oak trees and Grapevines, anything. Tree that has
needles or leaves through the winter time, I would focus on,"
______
explained.

"______ said crews have been busy nonstop with numerous calls
for service in the city.

"I had ten tags from our troublemen sitting on our desk this
morning from yesterday, Sunday and today; I've received probably
seven or eight calls from the office and the troublmen," ______
said.

"He believes it will slow down eventually once the heavy wind
dies down however he believed they will continue to be busy all
week and expects to see more broken limbs and will have to
continue their clean up throughout the city.

"As for tree cutting companies, _______ said their tree cutting
business will be busy for months to come leading into summer. If
homeowners or individuals are concerned their tree may fall or
break, ______ advises calling a local tree cutting service
company to assess the tree. If individuals or drivers come
across a limb that has fallen on the side of
a
street or road, they should call _____ for service to clear the
limbs
from
the road."


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