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RE: Area TPOs and Hedges

Subject: RE: Area TPOs and Hedges
From: Howe, Ron
Date: Mar 01 2019 11:34:58
I agree Andy ...

Ron Howe
Tree Officer (Planning)
Mole Valley District Council
Tel. 01306 XXX XXX

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of David Massheder
Sent: 27 February 2019 16:21
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: Area TPOs and Hedges

Hi Andy,

I don't see how that TPO can be confirmed in its current state then.   I 
would consider it to be defective.  Legislation says this:

PART 2
TREE PRESERVATION ORDERS
Form of tree preservation order
3.—(1) An order shall be in the form set out in the Schedule to these 
Regulations or in a form
substantially to the same effect and—
(a) shall specify the trees, groups of trees or woodlands to which it relates;
(b) where the order relates to a group of trees, shall specify the number of 
trees of each species in the group;

I've never TPOd a hedge either - what's that all about?  From UKGov guidance:

Can shrubs and hedges be protected by a Tree Preservation Order?

Authorities may only use an Order to protect anything that may ordinarily be 
termed a tree. This would not normally include shrubs, but could include, for 
example, trees in a hedge or an old hedge which has become a line of trees of 
a reasonable height. The removal of countryside hedgerows is regulated under 
different legislation. See guidance on tree size in conservation areas.

Dave


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-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Andy Smith
Sent: 27 February 2019 14:46
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Area TPOs and Hedges

I have a LA who have just put a TPO on a hedge less than 30 years old,
challenged but passed at Council, served it as group order listing only the
species no numbers well who is going to count how many Beech, Oak and
Hawthorn are in this hedge.

No tree officer either
Andy

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:04 AM Brewster, Ian <Ian.Brewster@xxxxxxx.co.uk>
wrote:

How old are hedges? Kept small they can out live most trees of similar
species so presumably they would precede the making of the AREA tpo and
therefore be protected. Though don’t they have to be at least 6 foot at the
time the order is made, So how tall is/was the hedge?

.
How old are hedges? Kept small they can out live most trees of similar
species so presumably they would precede the making of the AREA tpo and
therefore be protected. Though don’t they have to be at least 6 foot at the
time the order is made, So how tall is/was the hedge?

.

From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
On Behalf Of Alastair Durkin
Sent: 27 February 2019 10:13
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: Area TPOs and Hedges

Now that is an interesting question...


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uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> <uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
<mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>> On Behalf Of John Hearne
Sent: 27 February 2019 09:04
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info<mailto:
uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>>
Subject: Area TPOs and Hedges

I have a situation where a tree is within an 'area' TPO but quite probaby
was managed as hedge when the TPO was made and has only developed tree
stature in the subsequent 50 years. I'm not going to challenge it but was
intrigued as to whether, if I am correct, the tree would now be protected
by the Order. Just idle pondering but thoughts welcomed.

John

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 From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> On Behalf Of Alastair Durkin
Sent: 27 February 2019 10:13
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Subject: RE: Area TPOs and Hedges

Now that is an interesting question...


-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info<mailto:
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> <uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
<mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>> On Behalf Of John Hearne
Sent: 27 February 2019 09:04
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info<mailto:
uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>>
Subject: Area TPOs and Hedges

I have a situation where a tree is within an 'area' TPO but quite probaby
was managed as hedge when the TPO was made and has only developed tree
stature in the subsequent 50 years. I'm not going to challenge it but was
intrigued as to whether, if I am correct, the tree would now be protected
by the Order. Just idle pondering but thoughts welcomed.

John

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