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Re: Netting over hedges

Subject: Re: Netting over hedges
From: Julian Morris
Date: Mar 13 2019 08:43:23
Scarer spinds like the only practical solution for bigger trees. Amazon sells 
an ultrasonic one that is solar powered (£30), avoidin the need for battery 
changes or power cables. It would have to be positioned so as not to have too 
little light to function in summer when leaf is on. Unless this was 
desireable.

My client had a cat.

Julian A. Morris - Professional Tree Services
jamtrees.co.uk  and  highhedgesscotland.com
0778 XXX XXXX - 0141 XXX XXXX


Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 6:35 PM
From: "Andy Ball" <trees@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "UK Tree Care" <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: Netting over hedges

High pitched noises might not scare the birds off and might well annoy 
local residents etc, but there are audio bird scarers available used in 
aviation that use recordings of the distress calls of different bird 
species to scare birds from airfields/airports.

Most birds use a distress call to warn of possible danger, if developers 
are that desperate to avoid bird nesting perhaps this type of scarer is an 
option.

Knowing that over the years on UKTC various posts have covered issues of 
pigeons roosting/nesting and the effects of! So before anyone goes rushing 
off to get a pigeon distress call scarer, pigeons don’t have a distress 
call, so don’t bother.

Andy Ball


On 12 Mar 2019, at 17:53, Bill Anderson 
<anderson.arb.original@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

You've got me pondering how anyone would net something 25 metres tall
Julian, hence the reason to install bird scarers I guess. Illegal? I
wouldn't have thought so.
Bill.


On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 17:30, Julian Morris <jamorris@xxxxx.com> wrote:

On the same theme, I had a situation last year where a client and I gave
serious consideration to putting bird-scaring devices (high pitched 
noise)
in a couple of trees to put off nest building. There was a genuine reason
for it. Are there any reasons why this would be unlawful? And surely it
would be a suitable alternative to netting? Especially in my client's 
case,
the trees were 25m tall.

Julian A. Morris - Professional Tree Services
jamtrees.co.uk  and  highhedgesscotland.com
0778 XXX XXXX - 0141 XXX XXXX


Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 4:29 PM
From: ""Mark Mackworth-Praed" (mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk)" <
uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
To: "UK Tree Care" <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: Netting over hedges

A case reported in today's 'Times' - a site near the River Wey in
Guildford, Surrey, where the developer had put white netting over 11 
trees
- however they have agreed to remove it in view of all the fuss and the
fact that they don't intend to start work until well after the nesting
season.
Among the complainants was apparently Sir Philip Pullman of 'His Dark
Materials' fame - clearly not keen on light materials, then.
I'll call a taxi

Mark M-P

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> On Behalf Of Andy Ball
Sent: 12 March 2019 12:37
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: Netting over hedges

There was a piece about this on Jeremy Vines show last week, I think the
site discussed was in Norfolk.

Andy Jones’s email seems to sum up what the developer was saying to
justify the netting.

Andy Ball



On 12 Mar 2019, at 11:25, Bill Anderson <
anderson.arb.original@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

I suppose as the offence is to "recklessly disturb" then taking some
action to show you've addressed the issue is prudent. But don't those
Southern Europeans use nets to catch small birds? (The uncivilised
b*******s) And having had to rescue small birds from the net covering
an apricot tree I must say I'm doubtful about the practice and the
logic...
Bill.
PS someone covered an entire flipping Deodar (15+ M tall) with net on
a job round the corner from me....

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 11:15, Andrew Jones
<Andrew.jones@xxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk>
wrote:

Netting is generally a short term measure used in advance of hedgerow
removals planned within the nesting season - sometimes due to
pre-commencement conditions not having  been discharged (so hedgerow
removal cannot be undertaken as part of the commencement of an
'approved'
development)  or to avoid adverse impacts on other species
(dormouse/reptiles) that could be adversely impacted if hedgerows
were removed outside of the nesting season.

Sound ecological practice if hedgerows need to be removed  in the
nesting season and a developer wishes to avoid allegations of
disturbing nesting birds. Another alternative (where dormice are not
involved) is coppicing the hedgerows but this is more harmful
visually.

It's usually a just a risk reduction strategy (no one claiming it to
be 100% effective) and hedgerow removal would still be undertaken
under ecological supervision.

Just depends on the context and reasons for doing it.

The petitions may well be just to frustrate development and trying to
prevent reserved matters or discharge of condition applications being
approved.

Andy

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