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Re: AIA's and TPO's

Subject: Re: AIA's and TPO's
From: Bill Anderson
Date: Mar 14 2019 10:18:20
In that scenario Rupert, I s'pose the argument that LPAs are supposed to
have TPOs available to see at the drop-of-a-hat is going to come to the
fore.
As to LPAs bleating about resources, surely getting all this stuff on-line
is meant to save money? And I'm fairly sure I could save some LPAs a pile
of loot simply by telling them to stop wasting resources
protecting undeserving trees. To my mind a lot of LPAs should start by
actually listening to what their Tree Officers tell them; I get no real
impression (from outside) of the LPA treating tree-related matters
seriously.

Bill.

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 20:13, Rupert Baker <rupert_baker@xxxxxxxx.co.uk>
wrote:

Hi Bill,
If they don’t have their TPOs/ Conservation Areas up on line, that is
going to be a problem; it could lead to people having a defence against
illicit felling or pruning - "honest guv, I tried to find out, but no-one
got back to me, so I thought it was ok to go ahead...."
Mind you, when you think of how central government has starved Las of
cash, and expect them to provide a full range of services while finding
sites for  nigh-on impossible numbers of new housing, its not surprising.
Atb
Rupert
-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
On Behalf Of Bill Anderson
Sent: 13 March 2019 13:12
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: AIA's and TPO's

Trying to get info out of some LPAs is like getting blood from a stone. At
least one of my local LPAs won't actually put a call through to a planner,
a switchboard person simply says I'll ask them to get back to you..... And
e-mails elicit a response of "we'll get back to you within a fortnight...."

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 12:04, Paul Barton <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk> wrote:

Ha ha - fair question Alistair!

I didn’t see I was cagey, just that I don’t reveal all the background
reasons for making the enquiry!  I have a collection of friendly but
ambiguous stock phrases when quizzed!

Kind regards,

Paul Barton
MSc, BSc (Hons), TechCert (ArborA) MArborA

Director | Barton Hyett Associates Ltd
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On 13 Mar 2019, 11:19 +0000, Alastair Durkin
<ADurkin@xxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk>,
wrote:
Not that I'd ever ask why, because it's fairly obvious, but isn't
being
cagey about it more likely to illicit a new TPO response? 😉


-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> On Behalf Of Paul Barton
Sent: 13 March 2019 11:07
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: AIA's and TPO's

In the past I have had clients ask me not to check about TPOs as
they
have been concerned that a phone call with the tree officer may
trigger a new TPO!

I agree that there’s no excuse for not checking when LPAs have
records
of CAs and TPOs online, but in the past I have experienced some tree
officers probing as to why I want to know (to which I have to politely
decline to expand on the enquiry) - clearly because they are concerned
about pre-emptive felling etc.

It’s a problem that seems to stem from a combative approach to
planning
between some developers and planning officers.

Kind regards,

Paul Barton
MSc, BSc (Hons), TechCert (ArborA) MArborA

Director | Barton Hyett Associates Ltd
Website: www.barton-hyett.co.uk
Tel: 01386 XXXXXX
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On 13 Mar 2019, 10:20 +0000, "HUDSON, Chris"
<uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>,
wrote:
Could anyone advise as to why I appear to be receiving an
increasing
number of AIA's stating that no checks have been carried out with the
Local Planning Authority as to whether trees within the site are TPO'd
or lie within a Conservation Area particularly as BS5827:2012 clearly
states at
5.2.3 that the presence of TPO's and Conservation Areas is a factor to
be taken into account and are a material consideration (Annex B).

I understand that Consultants may have some difficulty in
obtaining
this information, particularly if its not online and there are tight
timescales, but it can become a little embarrassing when I have to
tell the applicant that his trees are TPO'd and his Consultant has not.
Chris Hudson
Principal Forestry and Arboricultural Officer Environmental
Planning Development Management Cheshire East Council

Tel (01625) XXXXXX
Email :c.hudson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.gov.uk
www.cheshireeast.gov.uk<http://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk>

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