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RE: Sycamores Ring-barked

Subject: RE: Sycamores Ring-barked
From: Brewster, Ian
Date: Jun 10 2019 14:06:21
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Dare I mention the word CAVAT, what with them being a part of an avenue and 
having huge amenity £value.
Felling might not be the best approach, as this could potentially stimulate 
further RBing examples popping up.
And this would give the culprits exactly what they want within a short time 
frame.
Why not confuse them a little by allowing the trees to continue in situ, 
leafing up for the next 3yrs.
No reason not to as doubt they will pose a risk of failure unless decay 
rapidly sets in, a need for regular monitored…
.
Dare I mention the word CAVAT, what with them being a part of an avenue and 
having huge amenity £value.
Felling might not be the best approach, as this could potentially stimulate 
further RBing examples popping up.
And this would give the culprits exactly what they want within a short time 
frame.
Why not confuse them a little by allowing the trees to continue in situ, 
leafing up for the next 3yrs.
No reason not to as doubt they will pose a risk of failure unless decay 
rapidly sets in, a need for regular monitored…
.
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On Behalf Of Alastair Durkin
Sent: 10 June 2019 14:54
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: Sycamores Ring-barked

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They might not die immediately but it’s a perfect canvas for any fungal 
nasties flying about. Have them out and replant. No point faffing around with 
grafting when this much damage has been done surely?

Alastair


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 On Behalf Of Jon Heuch
Sent: 10 June 2019 14:16
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Subject: Re: Sycamores Ring-barked

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I wouldn't give up on these trees because of the "ring-barking".



Having tried to do exactly the same with other sycamore - legally, with the 
owner's permission but on behalf of a neighbour - it took three visits over 
three years with increasingly deeper cuts with a chainsaw before my sycamore 
started to show any signs of damage in terms of foliage..and the process was 
only stopped after the new owner decided to remove the trees completely.
Trees were well and truly still alive at the time of felling. Experiment 
finished but I learnt a lesson that these damn trees just don't read the text 
books, nor listen to social media. I'm guessing cuts need to go as far as the 
nonconducting heartwood of a diffuse porous tree to kill it.



In commercial terms where ring barking was undertaken to kill trees en masse 
it was often assisted with a good dose of 2,4D or equivalent.



Jon






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<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> On Behalf Of Alastair Durkin
Sent: 10 June 2019 14:54
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: Sycamores Ring-barked

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They might not die immediately but it’s a perfect canvas for any fungal 
nasties flying about. Have them out and replant. No point faffing around with 
grafting when this much damage has been done surely?

Alastair


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From: 
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 On Behalf Of Jon Heuch
Sent: 10 June 2019 14:16
To: UK Tree Care 
<uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info<mailto:uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>>
Subject: Re: Sycamores Ring-barked

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I wouldn't give up on these trees because of the "ring-barking".



Having tried to do exactly the same with other sycamore - legally, with the 
owner's permission but on behalf of a neighbour - it took three visits over 
three years with increasingly deeper cuts with a chainsaw before my sycamore 
started to show any signs of damage in terms of foliage..and the process was 
only stopped after the new owner decided to remove the trees completely.
Trees were well and truly still alive at the time of felling. Experiment 
finished but I learnt a lesson that these damn trees just don't read the text 
books, nor listen to social media. I'm guessing cuts need to go as far as the 
nonconducting heartwood of a diffuse porous tree to kill it.



In commercial terms where ring barking was undertaken to kill trees en masse 
it was often assisted with a good dose of 2,4D or equivalent.



Jon






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