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Re: risk assessors vs. risk managers

Subject: Re: risk assessors vs. risk managers
From: Michael Richardson
Date: Oct 30 2019 15:47:29
I am talking from my central Canada perspective with only the smallest of
exposures to the UK, but the basics of risk assessment and risk management
are set out in board strokes of best practices in ISO 310000 and its
associate documents.


Michael Richardson B.Sc.F., BCMA
Ontario MTCU Qualified Arborist
Richardson Tree Care
Richardsontreecare.ca
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:44 AM Wayne Tyson <wt750mv@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

Thanks Michael. Thanks to you and the others, I'm beginning to understand
more and more how things work in the UK. (That does not mean to imply that
I know all about how things work in all the United States, and I am
dangerously out of date here).

I know not what others may say, but I say that assessing *failure
*potential
is one thing, and "risk management" is another.

W



On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 5:52 AM Michael Richardson <
richardsontreecare@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

How does one professionally define "risk to a tolerable or acceptable
level?"

Cheers,
Wayne


This ultimately is the question that risk managers, not risk assessors
must
define for their situation.  Arborists may provide input into risk
assessment methodology, but ultimately the managers of the assets must
make
decision about acceptance of risk, and this boils down to money.

I have found the book *Public Safety and Risk Assessment* by Ball and
Ball-King to be a great introduction to the subject, unfortunately there
is
no simple answer to the acceptable risk question.  Even among risk
management professionals I have not found an answer to how to decide what
is acceptable and unacceptable with regards to tree risk.

We can naval gaze about specific court cases; lawyers will always argue
more could have been done, but day-to-day, budgets and competitive
bidding
rule.  Never once have I seen a tree-related contract, for inspections or
contracting work, ask for anything to due with inspecting or managing
trees
to meet a risk target.

Ultimately we can ask for risk assessments to be proportionate to the
risk
but I also would like a specific answer to what is proportionate,
acceptable, or tolerable in context.



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