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RE: 2 rope access prompting?

Subject: RE: 2 rope access prompting?
From: Paul Smith
Date: Jan 06 2020 10:34:48
Thanks Bill.

I'm not aware that anyone has considered these specific devices, which of 
course require a full-body harness to be worn, but belaying techniques more 
generally are considered, and in use, and doubtless other technological 
developments in the fullness of time will assist compliance.

Happy 'Wisting' watching,
Paul  

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-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> 
On Behalf Of Bill Anderson
Sent: 06 January 2020 10:19
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: 2 rope access prompting?

From outside of the box; Paul, has anybody considered these auto-belay 
devices that climbing walls use nowadays? (
https://headrushtech.com/about/technology.html)
This occurred to me while a watching a Scandi-noir drama on the TV over the 
weekend, wherein someone being lowered down a well had not only their access 
rope but an auto-belay attached to the back of the harness.
Bill.


On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 08:12, Paul Smith <paul@xxxxxx.org.uk> wrote:

Apologies 'again' David.

Some details of the accidents to which the HSE refer were available on 
the previous weblink to the AA website. The HSE have, apparently, 
prepared more detailed information for a recent AFAG meeting and this 
should come to our attention shortly when we will publish on the website.

Regards


Paul Smith
Technical Officer &
Accreditation Schemes Manager (Contractors)






















Registered Office
The Malthouse, Stroud Green, Standish, Stonehouse, Gloucestershire, 
GL10 3DL Arboricultural Association Ltd Company No. 4070377, Charity 
Number 1083845 Arboricultural Association Trading Ltd Company No. 
05180170

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-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
On Behalf Of dlj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com
Sent: 02 January 2020 14:31
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: 2 rope access prompting?

Hi again Paul

It says ... "The HSE has consistently argued that, despite the good 
practice guidance that we have been working with for the last 15 
years, the number of accidents in our sector remains unacceptably high 
– indeed, it states that the arboricultural sector has the highest 
accident rate per capita of all UK industries. Clearly this is 
something we would all wish to change."

Can you point me to these specific accident statistics over the 15 
years mentioned please?

David

On 2020-01-02 09:45, Paul Smith wrote:
Maybe, but many systems are being considered / developed / reviewed 
on another forum.


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-----Original Message-----
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<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> On Behalf Of Sean Davies
Sent: 02 January 2020 09:43
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: 2 rope access prompting?

Are we just talking an auto belay? or something more complex?

Sean Davies

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-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> On Behalf Of Paul Smith
Sent: 02 January 2020 09:35
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: DMARC violation -RE: 2 rope access prompting?

Hi David, the latter, i.e. specific accidents, see 
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Regards

Paul Smith
Technical Officer &
Accreditation Schemes Manager (Contractors)




















Registered Office
The Malthouse, Stroud Green, Standish, Stonehouse, Gloucestershire,
GL10 3DL Arboricultural Association Ltd Company No. 4070377, Charity 
Number 1083845 Arboricultural Association Trading Ltd Company No.
05180170

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-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> On Behalf Of 
dlj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com
Sent: 31 December 2019 13:17
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: 2 rope access prompting?

Just saw a posting about this.......

"This is an interesting time in the world of Arboriculture. With the 
HSE now insistent on the use of two-rope working, industry 
professionals are working hard to devise systems to maintain 
compliance."

Does anybody know if this is just a development out of idealogical 
principle, or has it been provoked by specific accidents or broader 
accident statistics ?

David




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