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RE: TPO query? - woodland or garden?

Subject: RE: TPO query? - woodland or garden?
From: oldoaktree@xxxxxxxxx.net
Date: Jan 06 2020 15:42:15
Hi Bettina, HNY to you.

Woodland TPOs call for management. The Planning Policy Guidance (Someone 
bring us back a pdf with blue covers!) states this and therefore you have the 
right ask what kind of woodland management the LPA expects from the area.

If they can't give you an answer then the validity of woodland order is 
rather in question.

Perhaps individual tree/group TPOs would be better. 

Defo compare the acutal order to what the PPG recommends. The differences can 
be quite stark and are often produced by little condieration of the facts!

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tree-preservation-orders-and-trees-in-conservation-areas

Cheers

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> 
On Behalf Of Jerry Ross
Sent: 06 January 2020 15:15
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: TPO query? - woodland or garden?

Another question that might be asked is whether the tpo is 'expedient'.  
Are the trees under threat?
Another tack: if the owners want to thin or 'rationalise' the stand, are 
there certain trees that could be offered up as individual TPOs, or even a 
group?


On 6 January 2020 13:51:34 Bettina Broadway-Mann <broadwaytrees@xxxxxx.com>
wrote:

Thanks for all the responses so far.

We are still within the time limit for objecting, and will do so.

I shall let you know how it goes.

all the best
Bettina


On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:40 PM Rupert Baker 
<rupert_baker@xxxxxxxx.co.uk>
wrote:

Hi Bettina,
Bad luck!
We have a local authority down here where the TO uses 'woodland' 
orders as a replacement for the old Area Orders; understandable given 
the pressure of time TO's are under;  but entirely inappropriate 
IMHO; however, there doesn’t seem to be much one can do until a 
client is willing to challenge at appeal. I have challenged such 
orders at local authority confirmation hearings, with no success.
Re the Ash, have a read of the AA's guidance;  advice is that Ash 
should continue to be protected by legislation.
The real issue is the misuse of the woodland designation.
Atb
Rupert

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info On Behalf Of Bettina 
Broadway-Mann
Sent: 06 January 2020 10:37
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: TPO query? - woodland or garden?

Morning all,
Happy New Year to you all.

I have a local case which I would like some thoughts on please.

My client has a very large house in a very large triangular shaped garden.
The driveway, house, parking and lawn cover the bottom two thirds of 
the area, with a number of closely spaced groups of trees across the 
far one third of the garden.  This area has been left to grow wild 
for nature for the last couple of decades.  The property is in 
suburbia and surrounded by other houses and streets.

A TPO woodland designation has been served across the entire 
property, including the house, drive, parking and lawn areas.

Question 1 -  what definition of woodland is used for the purposes of 
serving a woodland designation TPO?  (I know the former blue book 
says this classification is unlikely to be appropriate for gardens).

Question 2 - roughly half the trees in the garden are Ash, and Ash 
Dieback is rife across this area.  Is it even expedient to TPO the 
Ash trees as part of the woodland given the current advice on how to 
deal with infected trees?

As always, any thoughts or comments gratefully received.

Many thanks
Bettina



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